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Kasept 06-24-2011 11:52 AM

Knee surgery sidelines Dialed In
 
DIALED IN OUT OF TRAINING, KNEE SURGERY NEXT WEEK

ELMONT, N.Y. – Dialed In, winner of this year’s Grade 1 Florida Derby and fourth in the Grade 1 Preakness, will have surgery next week on a chip in his right knee and will be taken out of training for a undetermined period of time, according to Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito.

The following is a statement from Zito on Robert LaPenta’s 3-year-old Mineshaft colt:

“Dialed In will be out of training for awhile. He has a chip in the right knee. We noticed there was something different with the knee. Dr. Migliacci took some pictures, X-rays, on the 25th of May, which was after the Preakness and there was no problem, but there is now. Dr. Bramlage will do the surgery next week and he will be back in training soon. Bob LaPenta and I, and all my staff, were looking forward to the Travers. Unfortunately, that will not happen. I am grateful that he was the favorite in the Kentucky Derby and ran in the Preakness for the $5 million bonus. But I am disappointed, along with Bob, that he did not get a fair chance in those races. Hopefully as a 4-year-old he will get back to where he belongs.”

randallscott35 06-24-2011 11:54 AM

He didn't get a fair chance...Nick needs a vacation.

Gate Dancer 06-24-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 786749)
DIALED IN OUT OF TRAINING, KNEE SURGERY NEXT WEEK

ELMONT, N.Y. – Dialed In, winner of this year’s Grade 1 Florida Derby and fourth in the Grade 1 Preakness, will have surgery next week on a chip in his right knee and will be taken out of training for a undetermined period of time, according to Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito.

The following is a statement from Zito on Robert LaPenta’s 3-year-old Mineshaft colt:

“Dialed In will be out of training for awhile. He has a chip in the right knee. We noticed there was something different with the knee. Dr. Migliacci took some pictures, X-rays, on the 25th of May, which was after the Preakness and there was no problem, but there is now. Dr. Bramlage will do the surgery next week and he will be back in training soon. Bob LaPenta and I, and all my staff, were looking forward to the Travers. Unfortunately, that will not happen. I am grateful that he was the favorite in the Kentucky Derby and ran in the Preakness for the $5 million bonus. But I am disappointed, along with Bob, that he did not get a fair chance in those races. Hopefully as a 4-year-old he will get back to where he belongs.”

Sorry that we won't get to see him run but not quite sure that I understand the 'not getting a fair chance' verbage here. He simply wasn't good enough.

ateamstupid 06-24-2011 02:34 PM

Didn't get a fair chance? Didn't he say there was nothing wrong with him May 25th?

randallscott35 06-24-2011 05:05 PM

Steve, any thoughts on these ridiculous comments from Zito?

RolloTomasi 06-24-2011 05:42 PM

I thought the main gripe about both Dialed In's classic efforts was that he was kept too far off the pace.

Not saying I buy into that, but it seemed to be an acceptable excuse for Animal Kingdom's Preakness loss, so why not Dialed In?

Calzone Lord 06-24-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 786834)
Not saying I buy into that, but it seemed to be an acceptable excuse for Animal Kingdom's Preakness loss, so why not Dialed In?

I don't think it was in AK's case in the Preakness. In fact, AK wasn't fast enough to get any closer to that pace.

To me - the weird horse is Shakleford. He's only run two decent races in his entire life - the Florida Derby and Preakness - and both times they absolutely let him rip early on.

Shakleford's Kentucky Derby 4th was a terrible performance because of the pace - and his Belmont performance was equally terrible - basically he hated the restraint and the two piece of sh!t who sat 2nd and 3rd behind him (Ruler On Ice and Stay Thirsty I believe are the names of those two horses) inherited the lead and winning exacta when he stopped.

I was telling people before the Belmont: "If Castanon doesn't have 15 on this field in a blink of an eye - he's riding his horse wrong. That horse runs like sh!t when they try to nurse his speed - and when he goes fast - at least he pulls everyone behind him out of their comfort zone all the way back through the deepest closers in the race"

cakes44 06-24-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 786834)
Not saying I buy into that, but it seemed to be an acceptable excuse for Animal Kingdom's Preakness loss, so why not Dialed In?

Because AK won the Kentucky Derby and almost won the Preakness, while Dialed In's best race out of those two was a sh!tty suck up in the Derby?

RolloTomasi 06-24-2011 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 786884)
Because AK won the Kentucky Derby and almost won the Preakness, while Dialed In's best race out of those two was a sh!tty suck up in the Derby?

Wasn't Dialed In nearly 20 lengths back of the slowest paced Derby in decades?

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 786921)
Wasn't Dialed In nearly 20 lengths back of the slowest paced Derby in decades?

Wait for it.....But AK was dead last and somehow won.

Dahoss 06-24-2011 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 786926)
Wait for it.....But AK was dead last and somehow won.

Animal Kingdom wasn't dead last in the Derby.

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 786929)
Animal Kingdom wasn't dead last in the Derby.

I thought at one point he was. Maybe I am thinking of the Preakness

NTamm1215 06-24-2011 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 786931)
I thought at one point he was. Maybe I am thinking of the Preakness

He was never dead last in there either.

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 786933)
He was never dead last in there either.

How about the Arc? Or his maiden race at KEE....I am grasping here...Either way, the silence from the NY crowd on these hideous Zito comments is deafening. If Mullins had said it, it would be the talk of the town.

Dahoss 06-24-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 786934)
How about the Arc? Or his maiden race at KEE....I am grasping here...Either way, the silence from the NY crowd on these hideous Zito comments is deafening. If Mullins had said it, it would be the talk of the town.

It was typical trainerspeak. What kind of a reaction were you looking for?

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 786937)
It was typical trainerspeak. What kind of a reaction were you looking for?

13 out of 14 in the Preak by the way, whoopdee damn doo.

He's an assclown Dahoss and took away from the other performances with that nonsense talk. Trainerspeak shouldn't be glossed over as acceptable. As much as I disagree with Chuck on here on a regular basis he isn't a phony and gives you a serious opinion about racing subjects including other trainers. Silence is acceptance. Shine the light on the cockroaches or live in a shi.thole, your choice.

Dahoss 06-24-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 786941)
13 out of 14 in the Preak by the way, whoopdee damn doo.

He's an assclown Dahoss and took away from the other performances with that nonsense talk. Trainerspeak shouldn't be glossed over as acceptable. As much as I disagree with Chuck on here on a regular basis he isn't a phony and gives you a serious opinion about racing subjects including other trainers. Silence is acceptance. Shine the light on the cockroaches or live in a shi.thole, your choice.

If Zito is considered a cockroach, I'll happily live in a sh.ithole.

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 786947)
If Zito is considered a cockroach, I'll happily live in a sh.ithole.

You miss the point. And whether it is trainer speak or not, Baffert gets bashed, rightfully so, for his bullshit dodge in NY and Zito gets crickets for this laughable display on top of his comments anointing a slow FL Derby winner as the second coming about how special he is. Let's hope he turns out to be as special as Ice Box

Kasept 06-24-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 786818)
Steve, any thoughts on these ridiculous comments from Zito?

They feel like an attempt to mollify the impossibly difficult owner he has to deal with.

randallscott35 06-24-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 786955)
They feel like an attempt to mollify the impossibly difficult owner he has to deal with.

Unacceptable. You are only as good as the company you keep. Would Farish make or sanction comments like this? Or shug? We should aspire to better as a racing community.


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