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NTamm1215 11-02-2010 09:58 AM

Firm ground could keep Workforce from running
 
Workforce was watched by trainer Sir Michael Stoute's assistant, Stuart Messenger, who expressed serious worries about the ground conditions, described officially as firm.

Speaking after the workout, Messenger said: "I'm extremely disappointed with the ground, I'm going to have a serious discussion with the boss. The horse is too valuable to risk."

http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse...in/784598/top/

hockey2315 11-02-2010 09:59 AM

They're not cooperating. Run him so he's up the track, please. He won't get hurt.

ateamstupid 11-02-2010 10:03 AM

Dammit. I want a decent number on Behkabad.

Coach Pants 11-02-2010 10:05 AM

So the horse might die if he runs. Churchill needs to boot that sissy off the grounds.

Thunder Gulch 11-02-2010 10:21 AM

Workforce...out?
 
Seeing some rumors they aren't happy with the firm turf course. Sorry it only rained once in two months guys. This turns the Turf race upside down if true.

The Indomitable DrugS 11-02-2010 10:29 AM

Didn't he win the English Derby in track record time on ground labeled "Good-to-firm" .. ??

I'm going to guess the ground was pretty damn firm that day as track records aren't set unless the surface is live.

I really hate having to listen to all of these retarded Europeans every year. The content of what they say is almost always utter crap - but they sure do have a fancy colorful and smart sounding way of saying utter nonsense.

Indian Charlie 11-02-2010 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 714888)
Didn't he win the English Derby in track record time on ground labeled "Good-to-firm" .. ??

I'm going to guess the ground was pretty damn firm that day as track records aren't set unless the surface is live.

I really hate having to listen to all of these retarded Europeans every year. The content of what they say is almost always utter crap - but they sure do have a fancy colorful and smart sounding way of saying utter nonsense.

I agree. This is complete nonsense and this is either an attempt to say something is wrong with him, or they are blowing smoke up peoples asses for some other reason. Probably something along the lines of showing how great a horse he is if he wins over a course he 'hates'.

hockey2315 11-02-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 714888)
I really hate having to listen to all of these retarded Europeans every year. The content of what they say is almost always utter crap - but they sure do have a fancy colorful and smart sounding way of saying utter nonsense.

I've been saying this for a while - they have a much less analytical way of looking at the races. . .

randallscott35 11-02-2010 10:33 AM

:baby:

Thunder Gulch 11-02-2010 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 714877)
Dammit. I want a decent number on Behkabad.

Me too...here comes 8/5

OldDog 11-02-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 714879)
So the horse might die if he runs. Churchill needs to boot that sissy off the grounds.

More dark "humor." I'm starting to get it. I guess.

I listened to Steve and the group talking about this on ATR a little while ago. None of them seemed to have a problem with the connections pulling Workforce from the race because of the surface. It's up to the connections to decide what's best for their horse.

RockHardTen1985 11-02-2010 10:50 AM

This would ruin a lot of my plans.

Coach Pants 11-02-2010 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 714907)
More dark "humor." I'm starting to get it. I guess.

I listened to Steve and the group talking about this on ATR a little while ago. None of them seemed to have a problem with the connections pulling Workforce from the race because of the surface. It's up to the connections to decide what's best for their horse.

It weirds me out that old people are using the internet.

OldDog 11-02-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 714914)
It weirds me out that old people are using the internet.

:D


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