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hockey2315 10-29-2010 01:38 PM

Ridiculous Pedigrees at Belmont Tomorrow
 
2nd-BEL, $62k, Msw, 2yo, 1m
RAISON D’ETAT (A.P. Indy) is the first foal to race from seven-time GISW Sightseek (Distant View), who earned $2,445,216 and excelled at a route of ground. While this colt has the genes to be any sort, conditioner Bill Mott rarely has his runners ready for their best first out, and has only won with one of 23 debuting juveniles in dirt routes over the past five seasons according to DRF Formulator. Raison d’Etat is coupled with fellow Juddmonte homebred Heat Shield (Distorted Humor), a second timer out of MGSW & GISP True Flare (Capote), making him a half-brother to GISW Latent Heat (Maria’s Mon), GSW Indian Flare (Cherokee Run) and GSW in the U.S. and France Art Master (Royal Academy). Ramon Dominguez is named on both runners, however, and Heat Shield will likely scratch to run on Sunday. Darley firster Buffum (Bernardini) brought $1.2m as yearling at FTSAUG, which was the second highest price paid for a Bernardini yearling last year. The son of MSW Storm Beauty (Storm Cat) is a half to MSW & GSP Stormy West (Gone West), who earned $367,153. Empiricist (Empire Maker), a $350,000 FTSAUG buy, is set to make his unveiling for Jimmy Toner. He is out of the GISW dam La Gueriere (Lord at War {Arg}), who also produced MGSW & MGISP Lasting Approval (With Approval) and Icon Project (Empire Maker), the smashing winner of last year’s GI Personal Ensign S. Empiricist is also a half to the unraced La Comete (Holy Bull), dam of MGSW & MGISP Munnings (Speightstown). Uncle Carm (Bluegrass Cat) makes his follow-up start after debuting to be sixth in a sprint here Sept. 25. The 3/4-brother to Leah’s Secret (Tiger Ridge), MGSW, $1,158,805 suffered from a tardy beginning first out and adds blinkers this time. According to DRF Formulator, trainer John Terranova is winless from 12 attempts to add the hood with second timers over the past five seasons.

4th-BEL, $62k, Msw, 2yo, f, 1m
BERNARDETTE (A.P. Indy) is out of the Cara Rafaela (Quiet American), a Grade I winner who was named 2006 Broodmare of the Year off the accomplishments of Bernadette’s full-brother Bernardini, the MGISW champion who has had an excellent freshman year at stud. Tom Albertrani also conditioned Bernardini, who broke his maiden emphatically by 7 3/4 lengths when stretched out from six to eight furlongs in start number two before reeling off five more consecutive victories. Interestingly, Albertrani also sends out Gharbiah (Bernardini) for her first go for Rabbah Bloodstock. The $300,000 FTSAUG yearling is a half to accomplished turf mare Honey Ryder (Lasting Approval), MGISW, $2,279,199.

Indian Charlie 10-29-2010 02:01 PM

There's also a 1.2 mil Bernardini out of Storm Beauty.

A full to Icon Project as well.

hockey2315 10-29-2010 02:03 PM

Thanks, Mr. Spark Notes.

Indian Charlie 10-29-2010 02:21 PM

I didn't feel like typing up a long background on who Icon Project is, since even the newest nubes know who she is.

Storm Beauty, is a well bred Storm Cat mare.

http://www.pedigreequery.com/storm+beauty

hockey2315 10-29-2010 02:22 PM

I didn't type that up for Derbytrail.

blackthroatedwind 10-29-2010 02:31 PM

Bernardette better be faster than the last full to Bernardini.

Betsy 10-29-2010 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 713070)
Bernardette better be faster than the last full to Bernardini.

Kind Words.........great name, no ability. Oh well.......her brother makes up for it and she'll probably be a good broodmare.

I don't know if I should root for the Bernardini or the full to Bernardini.....tough.

Indian Charlie 10-29-2010 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy (Post 713126)
Kind Words.........great name, no ability. Oh well.......her brother makes up for it and she'll probably be a good broodmare.

I don't know if I should root for the Bernardini or the full to Bernardini.....tough.

Well, I'm hoping for a dead heat myself.

Betsy 10-29-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 713131)
Well, I'm hoping for a dead heat myself.

I would not mind that............most Bernardinis need a race or two, so I'm not necessarily expecting great things. Buffum has some very solid works, so I think he has a better chance than Garidh, who is working rather slowly (so is Bernardette).

Sightseek 10-29-2010 07:53 PM

Sightseek's baby :{>:

freddymo 10-29-2010 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 713171)
Sightseek's baby :{>:

so cute................vomit

NTamm1215 10-29-2010 09:32 PM

I'll be surprised if either the Bernardini baby or the Bernardini sibling make an impact in the 4th.

JerseyJ 10-29-2010 10:03 PM

In the 2nd, Cool Blue Red Hot, a firster for Angel Penna is a half to Decelerator, although not a great horse by any stretch, she did win her debut at Churchill running down Hot Dixie Chick in the stretch last year, so with some good workouts, has a liscence to be able to run.

RockHardTen1985 10-29-2010 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 713051)
2nd-BEL, $62k, Msw, 2yo, 1m
RAISON D’ETAT (A.P. Indy) is the first foal to race from seven-time GISW Sightseek (Distant View), who earned $2,445,216 and excelled at a route of ground. While this colt has the genes to be any sort, conditioner Bill Mott rarely has his runners ready for their best first out, and has only won with one of 23 debuting juveniles in dirt routes over the past five seasons according to DRF Formulator. Raison d’Etat is coupled with fellow Juddmonte homebred Heat Shield (Distorted Humor), a second timer out of MGSW & GISP True Flare (Capote), making him a half-brother to GISW Latent Heat (Maria’s Mon), GSW Indian Flare (Cherokee Run) and GSW in the U.S. and France Art Master (Royal Academy). Ramon Dominguez is named on both runners, however, and Heat Shield will likely scratch to run on Sunday. Darley firster Buffum (Bernardini) brought $1.2m as yearling at FTSAUG, which was the second highest price paid for a Bernardini yearling last year. The son of MSW Storm Beauty (Storm Cat) is a half to MSW & GSP Stormy West (Gone West), who earned $367,153. Empiricist (Empire Maker), a $350,000 FTSAUG buy, is set to make his unveiling for Jimmy Toner. He is out of the GISW dam La Gueriere (Lord at War {Arg}), who also produced MGSW & MGISP Lasting Approval (With Approval) and Icon Project (Empire Maker), the smashing winner of last year’s GI Personal Ensign S. Empiricist is also a half to the unraced La Comete (Holy Bull), dam of MGSW & MGISP Munnings (Speightstown). Uncle Carm (Bluegrass Cat) makes his follow-up start after debuting to be sixth in a sprint here Sept. 25. The 3/4-brother to Leah’s Secret (Tiger Ridge), MGSW, $1,158,805 suffered from a tardy beginning first out and adds blinkers this time. According to DRF Formulator, trainer John Terranova is winless from 12 attempts to add the hood with second timers over the past five seasons.

4th-BEL, $62k, Msw, 2yo, f, 1m
BERNARDETTE (A.P. Indy) is out of the Cara Rafaela (Quiet American), a Grade I winner who was named 2006 Broodmare of the Year off the accomplishments of Bernadette’s full-brother Bernardini, the MGISW champion who has had an excellent freshman year at stud. Tom Albertrani also conditioned Bernardini, who broke his maiden emphatically by 7 3/4 lengths when stretched out from six to eight furlongs in start number two before reeling off five more consecutive victories. Interestingly, Albertrani also sends out Gharbiah (Bernardini) for her first go for Rabbah Bloodstock. The $300,000 FTSAUG yearling is a half to accomplished turf mare Honey Ryder (Lasting Approval), MGISW, $2,279,199.

Should I be betting out on someone to increase the Cup Bankroll, or not?

hockey2315 10-30-2010 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 713206)
Should I be betting out on someone to increase the Cup Bankroll, or not?

Are you capable of resisting betting the half to Icon Project? Supposedly he can run, but I'm not crazy about him first out. The only one I'd consider betting is the Terranova, despite the probably circumstantial stat.

RockHardTen1985 10-30-2010 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 713366)
Are you capable of resisting betting the half to Icon Project? Supposedly he can run, but I'm not crazy about him first out. The only one I'd consider betting is the Terranova, despite the probably circumstantial stat.

Im really not at all. Icon Project is the most brillant gal I have witnessed the past 3 years. Her Toga win was awesome, and she beat some girls who can actually run.

Betsy 10-30-2010 12:41 PM

Buffum won after making a very strong middle move, just holding off the 2nd place finisher.

hockey2315 10-30-2010 01:47 PM

That performance in the fourth was freaky.

Betsy 10-30-2010 01:52 PM

Royal Delta's female family is almost all turf, but for anyone considering Biondetti at all in the Breeder's Cup, he's a 3/4 sister to the dam of this filly, Delta Princess, so the family can handle dirt apparently.

She was very impressive - although the fractions were much slower than in the male division.

hockey2315 10-30-2010 02:09 PM

It's not like she was on the lead, though. And she had trouble. The boys went faster, and those two might be pretty ok too. For a Mott to win first out like that is a big deal. . . only problem I have is that the last one he had who debuted like that came back to lose and hasn't been heard from since.


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