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randallscott35 10-18-2010 01:58 PM

Helmet to Helmet Suspensions
 
On there way to a player near you!

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/spor...lmet-hits.html

slotdirt 10-18-2010 02:04 PM

Good. At least James Harrison is keeping up the tradition of having a Harrison being the dirtiest player in the NFL.

randallscott35 10-18-2010 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 708413)
Good. At least James Harrison is keeping up the tradition of having a Harrison being the dirtiest player in the NFL.

Yeah it is pretty scary to watch some of these hits. People are so much bigger than they used to be.

slotdirt 10-18-2010 02:42 PM

Harrison is the master of toeing the line of what is and isn't dirty. I don't get how he hasn't been suspended yet with some of the nasty hits he's put on players this year.

horseofcourse 10-21-2010 10:19 AM

Drugs wants to see Harrison's penis.

randallscott35 10-21-2010 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse (Post 709426)
Drugs wants to see Harrison's penis.

Ewwww

Honu 10-22-2010 08:52 PM

Half the guys in the NFL would shyte their pants if they were lining up against Jack Lambert today. He would tell a guy he was gonna break his legs and if he didnt cause him some harm then he considered it a bad day at the office.
I dont agree with helmet to helmet hits on purpose or to the QB or Kicker but hell isnt it what they are tought, to bury their head and plow thru?

hi_im_god 10-22-2010 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 710029)
Half the guys in the NFL would shyte their pants if they were lining up against Jack Lambert today. He would tell a guy he was gonna break his legs and if he didnt cause him some harm then he considered it a bad day at the office.
I dont agree with helmet to helmet hits on purpose or to the QB or Kicker but hell isnt it what they are tought, to bury their head and plow thru?

I was taught to lead with the shoulder, drive through the player, and wrap up under his butt. that was 35 years ago but it's still the standard in pop warner and high school.

and when jack lambert dreams at night, he's lawrence taylor.

Honu 10-22-2010 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 710036)
I was taught to lead with the shoulder, drive through the player, and wrap up under his butt. that was 35 years ago but it's still the standard in pop warner and high school.

and when jack lambert dreams at night, he's lawrence taylor.


LOL , prolly not as he looks down on his 4 Super Bowl rings.
So when you lead with the shoulder you leave your head in the upward position? So when you make the hit your head goes backwards?
Im no expert on football tackling, but I dont think that hit last Sunday was meant to kock the guy out, it just happened.
Maybe they could put flags on the players and have the Cheerleaders come in when someone twists an ankle.

hi_im_god 10-22-2010 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 710039)
LOL , prolly not as he looks down on his 4 Super Bowl rings.
So when you lead with the shoulder you leave your head in the upward position? So when you make the hit your head goes backwards?
Im no expert on football tackling, but I dont think that hit last Sunday was meant to kock the guy out, it just happened.
Maybe they could put flags on the players and have the Cheerleaders come in when someone twists an ankle.

your head should be across the body and yes, it should be upward. you aren't using your head in a good tackle when you're 12. you probably shouldn't be doing it when you're 30 either.

lawrence taylor is the reason left tackles are now the second highest paid position in professional football after quarterback. jack lambert wishes he was born heavier and faster every time he looks at a game lawrence taylor played.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-23-2010 08:32 AM

pussies..play the game ..if you get busted up so be it..its a risk you take for all that money..pretty soon it will be flag football

Danzig 10-23-2010 08:56 AM

i am all for playing the game, hard hitting, etc. however, you can lose so much more than a game check if you lead with your head. head to head must be addressed and apparently they have chosen to do so. i just hope they don't fine or suspend when the hit was actually a clean one.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-23-2010 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 710143)
i am all for playing the game, hard hitting, etc. however, you can lose so much more than a game check if you lead with your head. head to head must be addressed and apparently they have chosen to do so. i just hope they don't fine or suspend when the hit was actually a clean one.

the nfl is getting soft..and thats the problem the refs are going to have another tool to controll games and big games on the schedule 1 week out.if your stud linebacker in on the sidelines for a questionable hit and you lose the game that gets you into the playoffs then what..

somerfrost 10-23-2010 01:29 PM

America loves it's blood-letting pure and simple. Guys make big money but many times have short careers followed by a lifetime of pain and suffering. Football is a contact sport and as players get bigger and faster, contact becomes more and more dangerous! The NFL is hypocritical, it makes huge money off the violence then tries (with a wink) to act like they are concerned for the health and welfare of the players. Trying to hurt an opponent is not sport, it's criminal behavior....unfortunately it will continue.

clyde 10-23-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 710039)
LOL , prolly not as he looks down on his 4 Super Bowl rings.
So when you lead with the shoulder you leave your head in the upward position? So when you make the hit your head goes backwards?
Im no expert on football tackling, but I dont think that hit last Sunday was meant to kock the guy out, it just happened.
Maybe they could put flags on the players and have the Cheerleaders come in when someone twists an ankle.

God you're stupid!!

Bigsmc 10-24-2010 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 710152)
Society is getting soft..and thats the problem the refs are going to have another tool to controll games and big games on the schedule 1 week out.if your stud linebacker in on the sidelines for a questionable hit and you lose the game that gets you into the playoffs then what..

FTFY

I understand the danger of the helmet to helmet hit. I am quite sure the players understand it too, but when you have guys running 4.3 40's and can cut on a dime, what was intended to be a "form tackle" turns into a dangerous helmet to helmet hit is the blink of an eye. All it takes is a slight shift and a duck of the head by the offensive player as he tries to catch the ball....

It is well documented what the game does to a player's body in the long run. These are adult men choosing to play this game and to make a lot of money and risk their lives. Give them all the equipment and medical attention they deserve, but when two bodies are flying into each other, you can't legislate where their heads are or should be.

3kings 10-24-2010 07:34 AM

The one thing that bothers me about the Harrison hit is that the WR ducked. It seems to me that about half the helmet to helmet hits are caused by the offensive player ducking or turtling. I know this a natural reaction and can not be avoided but it should be considered when fining and especially suspending players.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-24-2010 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 710208)
America loves it's blood-letting pure and simple. Guys make big money but many times have short careers followed by a lifetime of pain and suffering. Football is a contact sport and as players get bigger and faster, contact becomes more and more dangerous! The NFL is hypocritical, it makes huge money off the violence then tries (with a wink) to act like they are concerned for the health and welfare of the players. Trying to hurt an opponent is not sport, it's criminal behavior....unfortunately it will continue.

I think it's obvious that a great deal of these linebackers n' defensive backs would be in jail if it weren't for the NFL being in existence. I don't know how you get sadists to stop wanting to hurt people. It's gunna be pretty hard to do. I think the best way to protect your receivers is to run the plays correctly. When you are late getting them the ball, you allow these run-ups that allow a lot of momentum to be built up.

Honu 10-24-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 710395)
God you're stupid!!



Shut up Natty!!!!!!

clyde 10-24-2010 10:32 PM

!




But....Natty?

Shirley you can't mean...that Natty?????


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