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iamthelurker 10-05-2010 01:41 AM

ML Classic Odds
 
Gonna be real interesting to see how the board plays out if all the pieces come together for this field. Zenyatta, Quality Road, Blame, Haynesfield, Lookin At Lucky, Fly Down, Richard's Kid, Rachel Al...nevermind, not yet sure of any others pointing but I know more will show. Whats your morning line look like?

knickslions2 10-05-2010 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by iamthelurker (Post 703487)
Gonna be real interesting to see how the board plays out if all the pieces come together for this field. Zenyatta, Quality Road, Blame, Haynesfield, Lookin At Lucky, Fly Down, Richard's Kid, Rachel Al...nevermind, not yet sure of any others pointing but I know more will show. Whats your morning line look like?

On just these horses

Zenyatta 2-1
Blame 3-1
Looking at Lucky 5-1
Haynesfield 8-1
QR 12-1
Richards Kid 15-1
Fly Down 20-1

MaTH716 10-05-2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 703515)
On just these horses

Zenyatta 2-1
Blame 3-1
Looking at Lucky 5-1
Haynesfield 8-1
QR 12-1
Richards Kid 15-1
Fly Down 20-1

Really????????????

randallscott35 10-05-2010 08:21 AM

Can't see Haynesfield be a lower price than QR

knickslions2 10-05-2010 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 703518)
Really????????????

Just don't think he can win this race. It seems to be set up for the top three. Of course I have been wrong before.

Travis Stone 10-05-2010 08:28 AM

If you're doing a value line... I put Quality Road at 20-1. I think it'll be really, really tough for him... plus I thought his Woodward looked bad. Morning line though... QR should go lower than Haynesfield I think.

MaTH716 10-05-2010 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 703522)
Just don't think he can win this race. It seems to be set up for the top three. Of course I have been wrong before.

That's fair that you feel he's not going to win the race. I just don't think he's going to be anywhere near 12-1. I think he will be less than both Haynesfield and Luckin at Lucky.
But then again, I have been wrong many times as well.

knickslions2 10-05-2010 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 703527)
That's fair that you feel he's not going to win the race. I just don't think he's going to be anywhere near 12-1. I think he will be less than both Haynesfield and Luckin at Lucky.
But then again, I have been wrong many times as well.

Your probably right. My odds were more based on my feelings then what the public will say.

hockey2315 10-05-2010 12:27 PM

Lookin At Lucky and Zenyatta were co-favorites on some of the European sites I was looking at yesterday. I think he has to be (and should be) second choice. I've never really liked him, but I'd say right now he's the race's most likely winner just because he's the most consistent besides the overrated one.

knickslions2 10-05-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 703615)
Lookin At Lucky and Zenyatta were co-favorites on some of the European sites I was looking at yesterday. I think he has to be (and should be) second choice. I've never really liked him, but I'd say right now he's the race's most likely winner just because he's the most consistent besides the overrated one.

The race appears to set up nice for LOL and Zenyatta. Should be a good pace

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 703675)
The race appears to set up nice for LOL and Zenyatta. Should be a good pace

Why does it set up nice? Where is the speed? Haynesfield showed he can go 1.13 and change, and QR figures to pull a cozy press trip of the NY Bred. Where is the other speed?

The Indomitable DrugS 10-05-2010 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 703769)
Where is the other speed?

Redding Collery - especially if Anna Rosie is going to ride.

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 703771)
Redding Collery - especially if Anna Rosie is going to ride.

So you have 1 real speed. Then Haynesfield....

NTamm1215 10-05-2010 05:04 PM

If the Japanese horse Espoir City comes over he has speed.

Here's a bad video of the JC Dirt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY4zDP_T4oQ

RockHardTen1985 10-05-2010 05:05 PM

I have been thinking about the Classic speed for a few days now, even talked to Phil about it. As a QR fan, I love Haynesfield.

jms62 10-05-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 703775)
If the Japanese horse Espoir City comes over he has speed.

Here's a bad video of the JC Dirt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY4zDP_T4oQ

I have zero memory so excuse me. Has a foreign horse ever won a DIRT Breeders cup race?

Dahoss 10-05-2010 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 703781)
I have zero memory so excuse me. Has a foreign horse ever won a DIRT Breeders cup race?

Arcangues and Arazi off of the top of my head. Feels like there have been more.

NTamm1215 10-05-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 703781)
I have zero memory so excuse me. Has a foreign horse ever won a DIRT Breeders cup race?

Sheikh Albadou and Johannesburg come to mind off the top of my head.

jms62 10-05-2010 05:30 PM

Have any of them been right off the boat without a US prep?

NTamm1215 10-05-2010 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 703785)
Arcangues and Arazi off of the top of my head. Feels like there have been more.

LOL, there's two more I didn't think of, Wilko is another.


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