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smuthg 08-31-2010 02:06 PM

Breeders' Cup Futures
 
http://www.drf.com/news/zenyatta-loo...rites-overseas

Some interesting ones out there... I would have thought that Goldikova would have been shorter than 2-1, especially since Miday is 7-4.

brockguy 08-31-2010 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg (Post 690412)
http://www.drf.com/news/zenyatta-loo...rites-overseas

Some interesting ones out there... I would have thought that Goldikova would have been shorter than 2-1, especially since Miday is 7-4.

The Mile is a lot more competitive than the FM Turf.

if Paco, Makfi et al go to Churchill, she could well be higher than 2-1!

more odds if you want to see http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-rac...st-racing/flat

slotdirt 08-31-2010 02:11 PM

If Zenyatta runs, I have to imagine she'll be a shorter price than 4-1 at post time.

Clip-Clop 08-31-2010 02:14 PM

Those are interesting, a mare (defending champ yes but still) and a 3YO that got creamed when he ran at CD (circumstances dictated that I know and I like him) co-favs in the Classic?

smuthg 08-31-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 690417)
Those are interesting, a mare (defending champ yes but still) and a 3YO that got creamed when he ran at CD (circumstances dictated that I know and I like him) co-favs in the Classic?

personally, I think Zenyatta is a MUCH better bet at 4-1 than Looking at Lucky at the same price.

Clip-Clop 08-31-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg (Post 690426)
personally, I think Zenyatta is a MUCH better bet at 4-1 than Looking at Lucky at the same price.

Not sure, one thing I have learned is a trip (regardless of how bad) over the CD surface is valuable. LAL is as honest a runner as they come, if he doesn't get beat up he typically wins. 14 horse field and some experience gives him a better shot than last year. That and he truly is a better horse on dirt.

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg (Post 690426)
personally, I think Zenyatta is a MUCH better bet at 4-1 than Looking at Lucky at the same price.

I agree. I'd also take Blame at 6-1 and Afleet Express at 12-1 before I took Lookin at Lucky at 4-1.

Smooth Operator 08-31-2010 02:42 PM

Can't open the links here … but it's unbelievable to me that Blame isn't the BCC fav at this point.

CSC 08-31-2010 02:42 PM

If Rachel has a dominating next start and if Quality Road runs one of those huge beyers AND if they both decide to go in the Classic this fall, the oddsboard will be an attractive one for any horse that can be deemed a contender. Obviously if you want to bet this race, you would have to want to root for QR and Rach in their next races.

smuthg 08-31-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy (Post 690414)

Thanks for posting...

RockHardTen1985 08-31-2010 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 690435)
I agree. I'd also take Blame at 6-1 and Afleet Express at 12-1 before I took Lookin at Lucky at 4-1.

Blame at 6-1 right now is just silly. Im not saying I like him, but how the hell is he not the favorite right now?

Clip-Clop 08-31-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 690442)
Blame at 6-1 right now is just silly. Im not saying I like him, but how the hell is he not the favorite right now?

10 Panels?
LAL and Z have been successful beyond 9.
Only reason I can think of, he certainly deserves to be.

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 690454)
10 Panels?
LAL and Z have been successful beyond 9.
Only reason I can think of, he certainly deserves to be.

When was Lookin at Lucky successful beyond 9? And Blame's stretch-running style certainly doesn't suggest that 10 furlongs will be a problem.

Clip-Clop 08-31-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 690458)
When was Lookin at Lucky successful beyond 9? And Blame's stretch-running style certainly doesn't suggest that 10 furlongs will be a problem.

Preakness and I agree.

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 690460)
Preakness and I agree.

Yeah, forgot about that. :zz:

Still don't think that race was anything special though.

RockHardTen1985 08-31-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 690454)
10 Panels?
LAL and Z have been successful beyond 9.
Only reason I can think of, he certainly deserves to be.


I think most Blame fans including a large one who hangs out on this website all thin Blame will LOVE THE 10F TRIP. Im pretty sure that are banking on him improving going 10f. Plus the race being at Churchill a track we know he loves, 6-1 is crazy. If Blame wins this JCGC and he will be no more then 6-5 to do that, then there is no possible way he is over 5-2 in the BCC.

slotdirt 08-31-2010 03:12 PM

So if the field is something like Quality Road, Blame, Zenyatta, Lookin at Lucky, Afleet Express, and five or six other fillers, who do you like? Despite the most recent effort, I'm not opposed to Quality Road in that crew.

RockHardTen1985 08-31-2010 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 690467)
So if the field is something like Quality Road, Blame, Zenyatta, Lookin at Lucky, Afleet Express, and five or six other fillers, who do you like? Despite the most recent effort, I'm not opposed to Quality Road in that crew.

QR,Z. QR will bounce back Saturday and then Todd will have 2 months to have him ready to fire 1 HUGE SHOT. We will see. If they all make it, Blame will be higher then 5-2. I think Afleet Express can step up and compete in the JCGC

knickslions2 08-31-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 690467)
So if the field is something like Quality Road, Blame, Zenyatta, Lookin at Lucky, Afleet Express, and five or six other fillers, who do you like? Despite the most recent effort, I'm not opposed to Quality Road in that crew.

Still gotta like Zenyatta here until she loses. I'd take both Blame and Lucky over QR. Just don't think the 10f is QR's best distance.

I think the turf races are going to be great!!

ateamstupid 08-31-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 690470)
QR,Z. QR will bounce back Saturday and then Todd will have 2 months to have him ready to fire 1 HUGE SHOT.

Didn't he have that before the Whitney?


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