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The Indomitable DrugS 08-28-2010 08:19 PM

Possible 7 figure show pool coming at Charles Town in race #8
 
This one should be amusing to watch. They pay $2.20 show minimums.

The 1 horse is four for four this year - with 3 stakes wins - two of which against open company in very fast races. Dominant early speed in the race.

The 1A is the fields best closer - and second best horse overall.

The 2 is scratched

The 3 could seriously not outrun a goat. Career top Beyer of just 45 and she's been beaten back to back in 5K N2L Wva bred company. She gets beat a pole here.

The 4 is 0-for-5 this year in all Wva bred N3L alw races.

The 5 won it's debut in a Wva Bred MSW race with a 72 Beyer last out. Could be a decent horse - but is stepping up and stretching out.

The 6 has run Beyers of 38. 50, and 53 last three tries.

The 7 has run 13 times with just one win and a career top Beyer of 63.

Indian Charlie 08-28-2010 08:45 PM

Does pip know?

Seattleallstar 08-28-2010 10:17 PM

down town allen won..the regular 1. She seems to be the Queen in those parts.

RockHardTen1985 08-28-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 689100)
This one should be amusing to watch. They pay $2.20 show minimums.

The 1 horse is four for four this year - with 3 stakes wins - two of which against open company in very fast races. Dominant early speed in the race.

The 1A is the fields best closer - and second best horse overall.

The 2 is scratched

The 3 could seriously not outrun a goat. Career top Beyer of just 45 and she's been beaten back to back in 5K N2L Wva bred company. She gets beat a pole here.

The 4 is 0-for-5 this year in all Wva bred N3L alw races.

The 5 won it's debut in a Wva Bred MSW race with a 72 Beyer last out. Could be a decent horse - but is stepping up and stretching out.

The 6 has run Beyers of 38. 50, and 53 last three tries.

The 7 has run 13 times with just one win and a career top Beyer of 63.


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The Indomitable DrugS 08-28-2010 11:56 PM

I wasn't even close with my million dollar estimate .... about 200K was all that was bet.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20100828&RN=8

The solid one won by 13+ lengths. The 1A surely would have been second if not for an abysmal ride.

Dunbar 08-30-2010 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 689215)
I wasn't even close with my million dollar estimate .... about 200K was all that was bet.

http://www1.drf.com/drfPDFChartRaces...=20100828&RN=8

The solid one won by 13+ lengths. The 1A surely would have been second if not for an abysmal ride.

I'm curious what % of the show pool was on the #1?



--Dunbar

The Indomitable DrugS 08-30-2010 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunbar (Post 689811)
I'm curious what % of the show pool was on the #1?



--Dunbar

I'm not sure - but I would have to think a huge %. Mid 90's probably.

It's normally a pretty good idea to make a show bet on the 2nd most likely horse to hit the board in a bridgejumper race ... but this was one of the truly rare races where it seemed utterly impossible for the 1 to be off the board and also close to impossible for his entrymate the 1A to be off the board.

They also had opposite running styles to boot - and you get the 10% instead of the 5%. I can't ever remember seeing a more favorable situation for a bridge jumper.

slotdirt 08-30-2010 08:23 AM

I saw that horse run back on July 10th, and it was another drowning. She seems to love CT, no doubt about that.

Dunbar 08-30-2010 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 689833)
I'm not sure - but I would have to think a huge %. Mid 90's probably.

It's normally a pretty good idea to make a show bet on the 2nd most likely horse to hit the board in a bridgejumper race ... but this was one of the truly rare races where it seemed utterly impossible for the 1 to be off the board and also close to impossible for his entrymate the 1A to be off the board.

They also had opposite running styles to boot - and you get the 10% instead of the 5%. I can't ever remember seeing a more favorable situation for a bridge jumper.


Yes, the 10% is huge. I wish I'd seen your post in time.

--Dunbar

ranger5830 08-30-2010 10:32 AM

IIRC, I think the entry had about $160k, interestingly enough there was about 17k bet to show on the 5, who finished 4th. If you're trying to beat a bridgejumper like that, that seems like a bad spot, where you have an entry in a short field where they both stand out above the rest. It seems like those who went against Russell Road, the Dunkelburger horse last week who was up the track and caused huge show prices had a better chance, because even though he was a clear standout on paper he was just one horse in a full field, and any one horse can have a bad day, but the odds of both of the entry not making the board in this spot was virtually nil, and certainly much less than the 10% return one stood to collect.

Port Conway Lane 08-30-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ranger5830 (Post 689864)
IIRC, I think the entry had about $160k, interestingly enough there was about 17k bet to show on the 5, who finished 4th. If you're trying to beat a bridgejumper like that, that seems like a bad spot, where you have an entry in a short field where they both stand out above the rest. It seems like those who went against Russell Road, the Dunkelburger horse last week who was up the track and caused huge show prices had a better chance, because even though he was a clear standout on paper he was just one horse in a full field, and any one horse can have a bad day, but the odds of both of the entry not making the board in this spot was virtually nil, and certainly much less than the 10% return one stood to collect.

The risk is never worth the reward. I forget how long ago it was,maybe 10 or twenty years, but there was an entry in NY in a graded stakes (Mother Goose ?) which ran off the board in a short field.

The Russel Road thing was insane,horse was off for two months with an outside post in an eight horse field.

tiggerv 08-30-2010 10:58 AM

Russel Road has been off all year and bridge jumpers got what they deserved even if the ride was comical.


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