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Seattleallstar 08-23-2010 04:30 PM

Godolphin/Darley liquidation sales
 
does anyone know how much they actually sell the well bred expensive rejects? Ive heard its literally pennies on the dollar. I also find it funny the geld all of the colts, I mean cant they workout something with breeding rights should the horse turn out to be something? or is it just pride getting in the way because their horse evaluation skills would be called into question.

Linny 08-23-2010 08:10 PM

Gelding is the right thing to do with a horse that is not a success. It has nothing to do with pride. There are too many bad stallions out there. Also, Godolphin is interested in outplacing horses for post race careers and for riding horses stallions are all but useless.

I do understand that they sell very cheaply the horses that don't fit their program.

Monarchos1 08-24-2010 12:27 PM

They have an arrangement with a Canadian group and a lot of the ones who underperform wind up at Hastings.

Seattleallstar 08-24-2010 01:37 PM

this all came to my attention last year when there were a ton of them at Emerald Downs i think it was 3 or 4 sisters was the name of the group. They were all trained my Mike Chambers and had a good year

Thoroughbred Fan 08-26-2010 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 687913)
Still waiting for Godolphin to win the Derby. Werent they supposed to have 2-3 by now since they knew how "really" to train a horse up to the Derby?

It isn't for lack of effort. It takes a lot of luck to win a 20 horse rodeo.

philcski 08-26-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Thoroughbred Fan (Post 687914)
It isn't for lack of effort. It takes a lot of luck to win a 20 horse rodeo.

You can argue that part of their failure is the hubris that winning via the Dubai route is effective and viable. Once they realize that will never work... they'll win one (or more.)

my miss storm cat 08-26-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar (Post 687218)
this all came to my attention last year when there were a ton of them at Emerald Downs i think it was 3 or 4 sisters was the name of the group. They were all trained my Mike Chambers and had a good year

This reminded me.... does anyone know who the other horses mentioned here are? Would love to know!


Darley bundled him with 10 other horses and off-loaded them to a pair of Vancouver, British Columbia, software millionaires early this year.


http://www.drf.com/news/burj-dubai-handful-barn

Okay must now step away from the nice thread before i start defending anyone.

Seattleallstar 08-26-2010 11:16 PM

Chhaya Dance was the most successful one so far out of the bundled rejects from last year that was sold to 3 sisters thoroughbreds and trained by Mike Chambers., and I guess this years went to the Canadians. Interesting to note Chaaya Dance is an AP Indy who comes from the same family as Tempera, Colour Chart who is Tempera's dam, and Convocation who races back east for Jerkens. CD won a stakes race here and was a contender for last years LGA Mile at EMD. I remember last seeing him in a race at Hollywood this winter.

As for this years batch sold to the Canadians, I havent a clue

Seattleallstar 08-26-2010 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerS (Post 687976)
Their plan is faulty.

Worldly Manner is a great example. Horse had the talent, but wasnt prepared right. Didnt have the foundation.

Wont get even into the whole idea that must have high priced horse to win Derby which has proven to be wrong consistently

Most recent example has been Vineyard Haven. If they had bought Worldly Manner and left the poor thing with Baffert then it would of had a chance. When they came to their senses and had some horses here under the Darley banner as 2 yr olds that were spread out between Eoin Harty out West, the midwest string was trained by David Duggan, and Eastern side of things were with Biancone, McLaughlin, and Dan Peitz. They would all winter them in Dubai and we all know how that ended up


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