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The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 03:50 PM

Better six race run from a 3yo filly?
 
I mentioned in the Crist thread about how females sprinters and turf horses don't get their just due because few people care about those divisions and because there are few Gr 1's for a top horse to pile up.

I think for six straight races during her 3yo filly Xtra Heat ran better performances than any 3yo filly I've ever seen. If you look at RA's three different wins in important races against males - and her staggering margins of victory in the Oaks and Mother Goose .. you'd think the quality of her performances were way better. For a season she was obviously better.






The two defeats by Xtra Heat were both remarkable performances. The 2nd place finish in the Test was a mind-boggling performance and she was easily much the best. The 2nd place finish in the BC Sprint came against the deepest field of sprinters you'll ever see. The field included favorite Kona Gold, Caller One, Squirtle Squirt, Left Bank, Swept Overboard, Delaware Township, El Corredor etc. Five Star Day won the Vanderbilt last out and was just 2/5ths off of Saratoga's track record - and he was 50/1 in the race.

The crazy thing about Xtra Heat was how slow her numbers were for the first 15 starts of her career ... she was 13-for-14 with 12 stakes wins in sprints .. with a nose defeat to Cat Chat in a race where many argued that she ran on a dead rail. Never once running very fast.


RolloTomasi 06-23-2010 03:59 PM

Wasn't Cat Chat Alan Goldberg's last graded stakes win prior to Strike A Deal?

Also, I think you need to put up Lakeway's 6 race streak culminating in that devastating Mother Goose.

RolloTomasi 06-23-2010 04:04 PM

Also:

Lite Light leading up to CCA Oaks
Excellent Meeting up to the Princess
Silverbulletday up the Gazelle

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 04:12 PM

No luck with Lite Light and EM .. but here are SBD and Lakeway...




Lakeway:


RolloTomasi 06-23-2010 04:14 PM

Gonna need:

Flawlessly (I think it's only 5 starts)
Hollywood Wildcat (maybe start with the Azalea)

10 pnt move up 06-23-2010 04:14 PM

9 starts before the BC....racing is comical now

RolloTomasi 06-23-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 661096)
No luck with Lite Light and EM .. but here are SBD and Lakeway...

I forgot the Mother Goose used to be run earlier than the Hollywood Oaks. Thanks for not leaving that race off.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 661098)
9 starts before the BC....racing is comical now

Look at Xtra Heat ... they ran her ass like crazy. Her BC Sprint try was her 12th start of the year .. and she ran twice in December before the year started.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 661097)
Gonna need:

Flawlessly (I think it's only 5 starts)
Hollywood Wildcat (maybe start with the Azalea)

I could scan in Flawlessly if I had a scanner working now - but no luck.

HW's Azalea wasn't much but she had 5 nice ones after that....


RolloTomasi 06-23-2010 04:34 PM

Thanks.

No pressure, but:

Yanks Music (I think you posted it elsewhere)
Go For Wand
Jostle

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 04:39 PM

I'm pretty sure I have them - will add tonight. GFW was a little before me - but she obviously ran 5 huge ones in a row in between the Oaks loss and BC breakdown.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-23-2010 05:03 PM

Getting back to Xtra Heat ... without a doubt the one race she ran that impressed me the most was not any of her 25 stakes wins .. nor was it the 2nd place finish against a brutally tough group of males in the BC Sprint.

For me - It was her defeat in the Test.

She hooked a super expensive 2yo sales horse in Harmony Lodge - a horse who just missed a track record going 5.5f at Saratoga in her career debut.

The two of them battled through a 44 flat over a racetrack that - on that day - such a fraction was impossible to believe going 7fs.

Harmony Lodge ran five times at Saratoga in her career - and her best performance might not be the day she won her Grade 1 - it might not be the day she just missed a really old track record in her debut - it was probably the day she got beat 39 lengths and ran a 21 Beyer figure .. after running a pace figure that was about a 150. She showed her true raw speed that day.



To give you an even better idea about how killer that pace was in the Test .. Secret Liason was one of the fastest 3yo filly sprinters in speed crazy So. Cal - and she couldn't even sniff that pace from 3rd. The pace causing her to get beat 50+ lengths and run a -0 Beyer.



For an even better idea of how fast the pace was in the Test .. future champion sprinter speedball Orientate broke his maiden going 6f that day. He was loose on the lead going 6f through a 45 2/5th half .. on my pace numbers for Saratoga .. he went 50 points slower to the half than the Test pacesetter!



I think for a 3yo filly to survive the pace and quality pressure that Xtra Heat did that day - fight Victory Ride as hard as she did when she came to her - and still run a triple digit final time figure at 7fs .. it was a remarkable effort. Probably more remarkable than stringing together 3 straight Beyers in the 117-to-120 range like she did right after that.

Danzig 06-23-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 661098)
9 starts before the BC....racing is comical now

yes, it is.

Indian Charlie 06-23-2010 09:56 PM

Lakeways 2nd lifetime start, which is the first race you listed of hers, was freakin awesome. Truly one of the most unbelievable performances I've witnessed, when you consider all the circumstances.

Indian Charlie 06-23-2010 10:00 PM

I've posted her before, but one must mention again the super filly Akinemod.

In her sixth start of this run she had, she ran something like a 119 going long for the first time.



And yeah, I know, those last 2 were technically as a 4yo, but barely, and not really.

Travis Stone 06-23-2010 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 661114)
Getting back to Xtra Heat ... without a doubt the one race she ran that impressed me the most was not any of her 25 stakes wins .. nor was it the 2nd place finish against a brutally tough group of males in the BC Sprint.

I seem to recall discussion that the rail on BC Day 2001 was not the place to be either, and that's where was the entire way.

The Indomitable DrugS 06-24-2010 12:32 AM

Jostle 5 race run:



Yanks Music's entire career:


KirisClown 06-24-2010 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS (Post 661278)
Yanks Music's entire career:



If not for a bad trip in the Acorn she'd only have one blemish on her record.. it's a shame her career was cut short..

RolloTomasi 06-24-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirisClown (Post 661283)
If not for a bad trip in the Acorn she'd only have one blemish on her record.. it's a shame her career was cut short..

I like it. Only loses when she's odds-on. What did the exacta pay in those races?

KirisClown 06-24-2010 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 661285)
I like it. Only loses when she's odds-on. What did the exacta pay in those races?

Acorn: $40

Monmouth Oaks: $17


I think Obrien ran her back way too quick in the Monmouth race, she was coming in on short rest after a long battle with Escena.. it's the only race where she really didn't show a whole lot of fight.


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