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Kasept 04-21-2010 08:43 AM

4/21-22 (KEE): Bewitch S. (G3); Elkhorn (G2)
 
8th (4:35) Grey Goose Bewitch S. (G3)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 1 Nehantic Kat Castellano J J Tagg Barclay 118 LA 4-1
2 2 A She's Adorable Hernandez B J Jr Stidham Michael 118 LA 8-1
3 3 Sweet and Flawless Alvarado J Reed Eric R 118 LA 12-1
4 4 Floating Heart Talamo J Pletcher Todd A 118 LA 3-1
5 5 Magical Theater Maragh R Arnold George R II 118 LA 8-1
6 6 Changing Skies (IRE) Desormeaux K J Mott William I 122 LA 3-1
7 7 Lady Shakespeare Velazquez J R Attfield Roger L 118 LA 5-2

Double-Exacta-Trifecta ($.50 min)-Superfecta ($.10 min)

Kasept 04-21-2010 08:43 AM

FRIDAY 9th (5:05) Fifth Third Elkhorn S. (G2)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Tiger's Rock Gomez G K 118 LA
2 Timeless Fashion Lopez J 118 LA
3 Sudden War (ARG) Solis A 118 LA
4 Bearpath Lenclud F 120 L
5 Expansion Leparoux J R 122 LA
6 Musketier (GER) Velazquez J R 118 LA
7 Transduction Gold Mena M 118 L
8 Pick Six Sellers S J 118 LA
9 Ascertain (IRE) Hernandez B J Jr 118 L
10 Blushing Bear Bridgmohan S X 118 L
11 Brass Hat Borel C H 118 L
12 Demarcation Castellano J J 118 LA

randallscott35 04-22-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 637790)
FRIDAY 9th (5:05) Fifth Third Elkhorn S. (G2)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Tiger's Rock Gomez G K 118 LA
2 Timeless Fashion Lopez J 118 LA
3 Sudden War (ARG) Solis A 118 LA
4 Bearpath Lenclud F 120 L
5 Expansion Leparoux J R 122 LA
6 Musketier (GER) Velazquez J R 118 LA
7 Transduction Gold Mena M 118 L
8 Pick Six Sellers S J 118 LA
9 Ascertain (IRE) Hernandez B J Jr 118 L
10 Blushing Bear Bridgmohan S X 118 L
11 Brass Hat Borel C H 118 L
12 Demarcation Castellano J J 118 LA


Sudden War may be able to steal this.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 10:28 AM

Speed of the speed. Especially coming from Cali turf.

ateamstupid 04-22-2010 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 638107)
Speed of the speed.

Notoriously valuable angle for 12-furlong turf races.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 638109)
Notoriously valuable angle for 12-furlong turf races.

The way KEE turf has been playing? Possibly.

booner 04-22-2010 10:54 AM

I'm keeping an eye on Pick Six. I have a feeling he's ready for a big run.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by booner (Post 638112)
I'm keeping an eye on Pick Six. I have a feeling he's ready for a big run.

He ran the fastest last out fig, I doubt that will be lost on the bettors but maybe...it is a large field.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638111)
I think your way way off on this race. I dont think he is the speed of the speed, but good luck.
I would almost be willing to bet he does not even make the early lead.

Ok.

NTamm1215 04-22-2010 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 638110)
The way KEE turf has been playing? Possibly.

The Keeneland turf has been playing to speed? There hasn't been a wire to wire winner in a week and only two races between last weekend and yesterday went to a horse that was 1st or 2nd at the pace call.

NT

hockey2315 04-22-2010 10:58 AM

I might bet Sudden War, but I don't see the "speed-of-the-speed" thing either.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 638116)
The Keeneland turf has been playing to speed? There hasn't been a wire to wire winner in a week and only two races between last weekend and yesterday went to a horse that was 1st or 2nd at the pace call.

NT

Wire to wire and playing to speed are two different things. For the totality of the meet I would say it has been much kinder to front running horses than closers.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315 (Post 638117)
I might bet Sudden War, but I don't see the "speed-of-the-speed" thing either.

Timeless fashion may be sent but his race on the KEE turf at 12 furlongs was forwardly placed but hardly winging it....I like Sudden War's pattern and price.

NTamm1215 04-22-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 638118)
Wire to wire and playing to speed are two different things. For the totality of the meet I would say it has been much kinder to front running horses than closers.

Thanks for the distinction. I think it's been a fair course.

NT

randallscott35 04-22-2010 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638122)
Price? He is the third choice ML, with Mcpeek and coming out of 2 Cali graded stakes I could see him being the chalk.... I dont get the price appeal either. I dont get this horse at all, what was his excuse 2 back when he got away with 49.4-1.15-2.05.2 and was basicley destroyed late?

When someone likes a horse why do you think that person is trying to convince you? I don't give a **** who you like or dislike. In a 12 horse field there are plenty of places to bet. Find one.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638124)
I dont, but you have given 3 reassons for liking this horse and 2 of them are just stupid, and false..... Speed and price appeal? He wont be on the lead and you will be lucky to get 5-1.

I didn't realize 6-1 was a terrible price if you like a horse....and if 12 horses go he will be that or higher I would think. If he's 3-1 I surely like him less. We'll see.

booner 04-22-2010 11:49 AM

FWIW, in the last 32 races run at 1.5 miles on the Keeneland turf, one horse has wired the field. During that same span, 7 horses that led the race for 1.25 miles or entering the stretch finished second.

knickslions2 04-22-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 638122)
Price? He is the third choice ML, with Mcpeek and coming out of 2 Cali graded stakes I could see him being the chalk.... I dont get the price appeal either. I dont get this horse at all, what was his excuse 2 back when he got away with 49.4-1.15-2.05.2 and was basicley destroyed late?

Most likely Sudden War will end up being the favorite. I take my chances with Expansion.

booner 04-22-2010 12:17 PM

I don't like Tiger's Rock, but I do like Expansion. He will be in my play somewhere.

randallscott35 04-22-2010 12:18 PM

Was Expansion a private purchase? Surprised by the trainer change a few back.


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