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DaTruth 02-22-2010 12:42 PM

Tidal Pool's Beyer
 
Does anyone know the Beyer given to Tidal Pool for her Oaklawn win last week? Thanks.

Kasept 02-22-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
Does anyone know the Beyer given to Tidal Pool for her Oaklawn win last week? Thanks.

102. It was brought up in the Weekend BSF thread too...

DaTruth 02-22-2010 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
102. It was brought up in the Weekend BSF thread too...

Wow. DWL is flying under radar with some nice 3yos. Sorry I missed it in the other thread.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-01-2010 02:44 PM

Top 5 Highest Beyers by a 3-year-old filly at Oaklawn going 1-mile since 1997:

#1. Tidal Pool 2010 (102)
#2. Rachel Alexandra 2009 (100)
#3. Really Polish 1998 (97)
#4. Eight Belles 2008 (96)
#5. Sweet Sixteen 2002 (94)

#2 won the Ky Oaks by 20 - #3 was 3rd at 30/1 odds in the Ky Oaks. #4 was 2nd in the Kentucky Derby. #5 never raced again.


Top 5 Highest Beyers by a 3-year-old filly at Oaklawn going 1 mile or further since 2000.

#1. Tidal Pool (102)
#2. Rachel Alexandra (101)
#3. Rachel Alexandra (100)
#4t. Eight Belles (99)
#4t. House of Fortune (99)

House of Fortune won a Grade 2 stake in So Cal with a triple digit Beyer two starts after her 99 Beyer Oaklawn win - but it was Island Sand, who was 2nd to her at Oaklawn, who would run 2nd in the Kentucky Oaks as a longshot in her next start - and win the Grade 1 Acorn two starts after her Oaklawn defeat to House of Fortune.

I have no idea where Tidal Pool's race came from - she didn't have the easiest trip and she just pissed on a field of all 4yo's .. not something you expect from a 3yo in mid Feb. There's really nothing phony about it.

It's Lukas .. so expect a collapse. No big name trainer in the entire sport is worse than Lukas off of a win. Since 2005 - Lukas is just 22-for-248 (8.9% wins) with a horse who won its prior start. The ROI is an almost too bad to even be believed $0.86 .. meaning you lose 57% on every dollar bet.

Since 2005 - Lukas is 11-for-133 (8.3%) with a $0.68 ROI with horses who won their prior start and return at a distance of one-mile or further. That's a 66% loss on the betting dollar .. four times the takeout.

Bottom line ... little known 3yo filly Rachel Alexandra ran a 100 Beyer in a 50k ungraded stakes race going 1 mile at OP in Feb of last year. Because of trainer stats - you could almost pencil Rachel Alexandra into the Hall of Fame off of that performance. Her trainer was one of the worst layoff trainers in the game.

This year .. Tidal Pool runs a historical speed figure and wins with a performance that has left me scratching my head for over a week now. Because of her trainer .. you can almost pencil in a train wreck.

northeastbound123 03-01-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Top 5 Highest Beyers by a 3-year-old filly at Oaklawn going 1-mile since 1997:

House of Fortune won a Grade 2 stake in So Cal with a triple digit Beyer two starts after her 99 Beyer Oaklawn win - but it was Island Sand, who was 2nd to her at Oaklawn, who would run 2nd in the Kentucky Oaks as a longshot in her next start - and win the Grade 1 Acorn two starts after her Oaklawn defeat to House of Fortune.

Doug when you wrote Island Sand I started to wonder how she has been in the shed. Is there any way to get the names of her offspring? Any help or answers are appreciated.

The Indomitable DrugS 03-01-2010 02:51 PM

http://www.pedigreequery.com/progeny/island+sand2

She has an unraced 3yo by Ap Indy and a 2yo by Ap Indy as well. They sold her for $4.2 million at auction in foal while she was carrying her A. P. Indy baby.

northeastbound123 03-01-2010 02:53 PM

thanks will be using this often

Kasept 03-01-2010 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by northeastbound123
Doug when you wrote Island Sand I started to wonder how she has been in the shed. Is there any way to get the names of her offspring? Any help or answers are appreciated.

A P ELI (USA) ch C 2007 by AP INDY
MARTINI BROTHER (USA) dkb C 2008 by AP INDY

northeastbound123 03-01-2010 02:57 PM

must have liked what they got first time round


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