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Kasept 02-21-2010 09:19 AM

Stakes BSF's: Eskendereya 106; Conveyance 97; Discreetly 94
 
FG-Risen Star S (G2): Discreetly Mine 94 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
FG-Silverbulletday S (G3): Jody Slew 86 (W. Calhoun/M. Mena)
FG-Fair Grounds H (G3): Blues Street 104 (T. Pletcher/J. Castellano)
FG-Mineshaft H (G3): Stonehouse 101 (J. Broussard/M. Mena)

GP-Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth S (G2): Eskendereya 106 (T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez)
GP-Honey Fox S (G3): Wasted Tears 94 (B. Evans/C. Velasquez)
GP-Hutcheson S (G2): D' Funnybone 99 (R. Dutrow/E. Prado)
GP-Canadian Turf S (G3): Courageous Cat 103 (W. Mott/G. Gomez)
GP-Ladies Turf Sprint S: Starfish Bay 99 (T. Pletcher/C. DeCarlo)
OP-Southwest S (G3): Conveyance 97 (B. Baffert/M. Garcia)

GG-El Camino Real Derby(G3): Connemara 83 (T. Pletcher/R. Baze)

SA-San Carlos H (G2): Bob Black Jack 101 (J. Kasparoff/D. Flores)
SA-San Luis Obispo H (G2): Bourbon Bay TBD (N. Drysdale/R. Bejarano)

TAM-Tampa Bay S: Karelian 99 (G. Arnold II/R. Homeister)

freddymo 02-21-2010 09:44 AM

103 for the Ca. turf? I guess the second place finisher ran a career top by several? Turf figs are useless

The Indomitable DrugS 02-21-2010 10:08 AM

I agree that figures are pretty much useless in turf races ... but Cherokee Artist did run a 95 in his prior turf start - and when you consider that he was making only his 3rd lifetime turf try yesterday, and he just missed winning at 26/1 odds .. I don't think a 103 is all that unreasonable.

Merlinsky 02-21-2010 11:14 AM

How did Doubles Partner/Lentenor do out of curiosity?

The Bid 02-21-2010 11:15 AM

89 for that couple

freddymo 02-21-2010 11:19 AM

What did the phipps filly get 88?

Gaining Ground 02-21-2010 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
What did the phipps filly get 88?

80

freddymo 02-21-2010 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground
80

The Hutch got 100 and a race that went less then sec slow got an 80.. What were the other 7f races?

Gaining Ground 02-21-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The Hutch got 100 and a race that went less then sec slow got an 80.. What were the other 7f races?

winner of the 6th got a 76

freddymo 02-21-2010 02:48 PM

I get that one if you use 80 for the 2nd..But how did they use 80 for the second?

JerseyJ 02-21-2010 10:47 PM

Anyone have a beyer for Tidal Pool at Thursday from Oaklawn? Drew off to beat older Fillies and Mares by 8 lengths in an allowance. Just curious because it was a pretty impressive performance.

RolloTomasi 02-21-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I get that one if you use 80 for the 2nd..But how did they use 80 for the second?

What's the discrepancy, like 3 or 4 points?

Either way you slice it, she'll have to run faster to win a Grade 1.

Fortunately, it was only her first start and in maiden company. Adding in her pedigree, she has a license to improve immensely in subsequent starts.

Kasept 02-22-2010 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyJ
Anyone have a beyer for Tidal Pool at Thursday from Oaklawn? Drew off to beat older Fillies and Mares by 8 lengths in an allowance. Just curious because it was a pretty impressive performance.

JJ,

Impressive is right... 102

freddymo 02-22-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
What's the discrepancy, like 3 or 4 points?

Either way you slice it, she'll have to run faster to win a Grade 1.

Fortunately, it was only her first start and in maiden company. Adding in her pedigree, she has a license to improve immensely in subsequent starts.

They cant get an INDY or Storm Cat(recently) to be a runner but a Forest Wildcat wins first out? The dam hs been productive and with the lose of Pine Island I am sure they are hoping for a decent replacement.
DrugS told me 1 sec at 7f's is about 12 BSF pts. She went about a sec slower then D Funnybone who got a 99. I thought 85-88 would have been right.. Not that it matters to much. will see what CJ comes up with.

Kasept 02-22-2010 08:25 AM

Beaten Lengths Adjustment Chart

freddymo 02-22-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

This assumes I realize how many lengths in a sec? Isn't there a time to BSF chart? Eitherway it doesnt matter much Shug has the Acorn winner

cmorioles 02-23-2010 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
They cant get an INDY or Storm Cat(recently) to be a runner but a Forest Wildcat wins first out? The dam hs been productive and with the lose of Pine Island I am sure they are hoping for a decent replacement.
DrugS told me 1 sec at 7f's is about 12 BSF pts. She went about a sec slower then D Funnybone who got a 99. I thought 85-88 would have been right.. Not that it matters to much. will see what CJ comes up with.

Well, first off the variant was split on the day. Beyer took six more points off of races 1 and 2 compared to all the other races on the dirt on the card.

I sometimes argue against split variants, but I don't see it here. 80 looks pretty solid as a race figure and the pace was average with no real effect on final time.

Danzig 02-23-2010 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
This assumes I realize how many lengths in a sec? Isn't there a time to BSF chart? Eitherway it doesnt matter much Shug has the Acorn winner


isn't a length considered one fifth of a second?

cmorioles 02-23-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
isn't a length considered one fifth of a second?

NO! That is one of the first things Beyer changed to get away from parallel time charts.

Freddy,

This link has beaten length charts and speed charts.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-23-2010 10:12 PM

I'm trolling for CJ love as hard as I possibly can with this avatar.

I feel like a desperate girl with a huge crush who is being ignored by the apple of her eye.


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