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hoovesupsideyourhead 02-16-2010 01:24 PM

would quality road have beat zen in the b.c.
 
with the performance he tossed in the donn. if he would have loaded in the breeders cup classic do you think he would have ruined zenyattas big party..

Danzig 02-16-2010 01:29 PM

he'd have not only won, he would have lapped the field. :D

Antitrust32 02-16-2010 01:32 PM

I guess it would have depended on how well he handled the fake turf!!

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2010 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
with the performance he tossed in the donn. if he would have loadedin the breeders cup classic do you think he would have ruined zenyattas big party..

Not over that track, and I am his biggest fan.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-16-2010 01:47 PM

Has a Hard-On for Gulfstream. If they ran the Derby at Gulfstream, Todd Pletcher would of won it 3 times by now. Just wind them up, and watch how they keep on keeping on.

Sightseek 02-16-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Not over that track, and I am his biggest fan.

I'm his biggest fan. :p

SCUDSBROTHER 02-16-2010 02:01 PM

Woulda, Coulda, and Shoulda = Scoreboard's 3 lil toothless bitches.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2010 02:02 PM

Elusive Quality sired the previous BC Classic winner over that track - the mighty Ravens Pass.

I don't think that would have mattered very much. Quality Road has just way too much natural speed to be as good on synthetic going 10fs as he would be on dirt.

VOL JACK 02-16-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
he'd have not only won, he would have lapped the field. :D

Thanks for the daily reminder of how you have ZERO clue.

Antitrust32 02-16-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Thanks for the daily reminder of how you have ZERO clue.

:rolleyes:

Danzig 02-16-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Thanks for the daily reminder of how you have ZERO clue.

i was being facetious. sorry it went over your head.

brianwspencer 02-16-2010 02:54 PM

No. Not a chance on a track that regularly eats runners with his style for lunch....whether they're exceptional or not.

alysheba4 02-16-2010 03:05 PM

true, speed going 2 turns is toast.....i just hope both get to churchill in fine order and we can see what happens.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-16-2010 03:16 PM

On any real sort of track, he's a bit 10f-limited. She is a 10f horse.

Indian Charlie 02-16-2010 03:37 PM

I think they would have dead heated.

Icon Project would have run third.

ArlJim78 02-16-2010 05:07 PM

No way does Quality Road win that race imo.

The Indomitable DrugS 02-16-2010 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
On any real sort of track, he's a bit 10f-limited. She is a 10f horse.

How is he 10f limited?

because of how he ran in the Travers after being illogically rushed into making the race off of feet trouble and with only a single 6.5f prep a few weeks earlier. Breaking poorly at the start costing himself position hurt his chances as well and made the likelyhood of a non-effort that much greater.

He was a fairly competitive 3rd in that race despite all kinds of reasons to not fire.

VOL JACK 02-16-2010 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i was being facetious. sorry it went over your head.

A lot gets lost on the internet in coversation.
you need to learn to use the fat man symbol, if you are joking......i.e:rolleyes:

Danzig 02-16-2010 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
A lot gets lost on the internet in coversation.
you need to learn to use the fat man symbol, if you are joking......i.e:rolleyes:


it's why i used the big cheesy grin-i was hoping it would work. that and people knowing i don't give out heaps of praise for the most part.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-16-2010 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
How is he 10f limited?

because of how he ran in the Travers after being illogically rushed into making the race off of feet trouble and with only a single 6.5f prep a few weeks earlier. Breaking poorly at the start costing himself position hurt his chances as well and made the likelyhood of a non-effort that much greater.

He was a fairly competitive 3rd in that race despite all kinds of reasons to not fire.

O.K., really, I don't know how in the hell this is happening, but it's the same situation as with St. Trinians, and Sidney's Candy. We'll pass on the race you say was troubled. Go to the following race (J.C. G CUP.) The horse is enjoying the track. The track may have bothered some that day, but not the top 2. He's playing on the front of a 24.96, 49.73, 113.12 pace. If he is a 10f horse, then there is no reason why he shouldn't outfinish all comers in there. Look at the head-on version of the race. He looks nice on the far turn. So, if it was 9f, I think he holds off the winner in that. It's the final eighth that gets him. Look at his left front. That twirling lasso crap doesn't help. Do you really think this horse can hold a horse like Zenyatta off going 10f when he's tired, n' twirling a lasso? Better be at Gulfstream, or Monmouth. It's probably not gunna happen at Belmont, Churchill, Anita etc. He would need to catch a particularly fast track. No doubt, he is terrific at Gulfstream. Anywhere else, I really think he's much better off going 9f or less. BTW, I thought this twirler (C. Reality) was gunna win the Breeders Cup Classic. He could EASILY beat Alysheba on what looks like a fast HWD STRIP. Wasn't quite the same when the footing changed. Look at him twirl in the stretch at Churchill. On one surface (fast dirt,) he's was awesome, but not when the surface changed. So, if you get that super fast dirt track, yea, Quality Road can win a big race going 10f.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-42Fzs7FKA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oksnqhosh8


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