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Riot 01-25-2010 09:58 PM

The Republicans vs. ... everyone else
 
Just thought this info interesting, based upon all the "polling" data we've seen in the past few months.

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Republicans have turned overwhelmingly against President Obama, while Democrats are still largely supportive -- leading to the most polarized approval ratings ever recorded during a president's first year in office, a new report by Gallup finds.

Over the course of this past year, Obama has averaged a job approval rating of 88 percent among Democrats and just 23 percent among Republicans, according to the study released on Monday morning. That year-one 65-point margin is the largest that the public opinion research firm has ever recorded.

At the end of his first year, former President Bill Clinton averaged a smaller 52-point gap -- not because Republicans liked him any more than they like Obama, but because Democrats didn't like him as much. President George W. Bush averaged a 45-point gap; during his first year, he had almost universal support from Republicans, while nearly half of Democrats were still giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Looking at the data going further back in history, it's evident that the country has grown far more polarized since the age of Eisenhower, Kennedy and Johnson.

At the same time, to the extent that Obama pledged to end the partisan rancor in Washington, he clearly has not succeeded. But much of that stems from the calculation among Republicans that opposition to (if not demonization of) Obama presents the quickest path back to power. GOP favorability of the president went from 41 percent when he took office to 18 percent today.

Another factor in Obama's dwindling Republican numbers is the dwindling number of people - particularly moderates -- who identify themselves as members of the Republican Party. In a recent Pew poll on the same topic, only 24 percent of respondents identified themselves as Republicans, down nine percentage points from 2004.

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From: Gallup Polls

January 25, 2010
Obama's Approval Most Polarized for First-Year President
Shows much greater party differences than approval for any prior first-year president
by Jeffrey M. Jones
PRINCETON, NJ -- The 65 percentage-point gap between Democrats' (88%) and Republicans' (23%) average job approval ratings for Barack Obama is easily the largest for any president in his first year in office, greatly exceeding the prior high of 52 points for Bill Clinton.

Overall, Obama averaged 57% job approval among all Americans from his inauguration to the end of his first full year on Jan. 19. He came into office seeking to unite the country, and his initial approval ratings ranked among the best for post-World War II presidents, including an average of 41% approval from Republicans in his first week in office. But he quickly lost most of his Republican support, with his approval rating among Republicans dropping below 30% in mid-February and below 20% in August. Throughout the year, his approval rating among Democrats exceeded 80%, and it showed little decline even as his overall approval rating fell from the mid-60s to roughly 50%.

Thus, the extraordinary level of polarization in Obama's first year in office is a combination of declining support from Republicans coupled with high and sustained approval from Democrats. In fact, his 88% average approval rating from his own party's supporters is exceeded only by George W. Bush's 92% during Bush's first year in office. Obama's 23% approval among supporters of the opposition party matches Bill Clinton's for the lowest for a first-year president. But Clinton was less popular among Democrats than Obama has been to date, making Obama's ratings more polarized.

timmgirvan 01-25-2010 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Just thought this info interesting, based upon all the "polling" data we've seen in the past few months.

you expected something else? Defeat is Polarizing!

Riot 01-25-2010 10:18 PM

What is interesting is the strength of the people who elected him, still overwhelmingly supporting him. As the number of Republicans falls lower and lower. Demographic shift continuing, the GOP becomes the party of the rural south ever more so. The Independents rule the world and decide elections.

timmgirvan 01-25-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
What is interesting is the strength of the people who elected him, still overwhelmingly supporting him. As the number of Republicans falls lower and lower. Demographic shift continuing, the GOP becomes the party of the rural south ever more so. The Independents rule the world and decide elections.

Well, it's about time that the South figured out it's been swindled by the Dems
long enough!

Smooth Operator 01-26-2010 12:43 PM

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At the same time, to the extent that Obama pledged to end the partisan rancor in Washington, he clearly has not succeeded. But much of that stems from the calculation among Republicans that opposition to (if not demonization of) Obama presents the quickest path back to power. GOP favorability of the president went from 41 percent when he took office to 18 percent today.
These cons … particularly the talking head entertainers in the media like high-pitch Hannity … are pathetic.

And this 'strategy' clearly exposes just how pathetic these do-nothing, just-say-no losers really are.



Yeah, can't wait for the cons to take over again … maybe this time they'll lead the country straight into a full-fledged Great Depression II instead of just another Great (Bush-Cheney) Recession … LOL

johnny pinwheel 01-26-2010 12:53 PM

the con is the folks that believe in either party. they just take turns screwing us and everything up. when it becomes the people against the republicans and democrats........NOW THAT WILL BE SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT !

dellinger63 01-26-2010 01:01 PM

what I find interesting is how Riot cites Gallop averages over a year and doesn't bother to compare his approval numbers now compared to when he was voted into office with both party's voters. In that way bi-partisanship is alive and well in that both dems and Reps have agreed on the popularity of this Pres. and it's moving negative. But like I've said all along let this guy get tough and try and force his agenda thru despite public opinion. It's not the democratic way but it is the Chicago way.

Riot 01-26-2010 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
the con is the folks that believe in either party. they just take turns screwing us and everything up. when it becomes the people against the republicans and democrats........NOW THAT WILL BE SOMETHING TO CHEER ABOUT !

Seriously - google "Tea Party Nashville convention"and see what a complete balls-up the "people's movement against government" is experiencing. Infighting, cancellation, taking money, accusations of fraud, Republican backing ...

Riot 01-26-2010 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
what I find interesting is how Riot cites Gallop averages over a year and doesn't bother to compare his approval numbers now compared to when he was voted into office with both party's voters. .

:zz: :zz: You'd better read both articles again.

dellinger63 01-26-2010 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
:zz: :zz: You'd better read both articles again.


show me a poll that has Obama's approval rating higher now than when he took office with either party. Gallop will be good. That was my point.

Nascar1966 01-27-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
What is interesting is the strength of the people who elected him, still overwhelmingly supporting him. As the number of Republicans falls lower and lower. Demographic shift continuing, the GOP becomes the party of the rural south ever more so. The Independents rule the world and decide elections.


Just ask Coakley from Massachusetts about Independents deciding elections.

dagolfer33 01-28-2010 08:13 AM

Statistics are BS.


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