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Kasept 01-06-2010 06:12 PM

1/9 (GP): Old Hat; Mr. Prospector; Sugar Swirl (G3's); More..
 
5th (3:07) Spectacular Bid S.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Call Shot Leparoux J R 116 L
2 Discreetly Mine Velazquez J R 116 L
3 Wildcat Frankie Lopez P 116 L
4 Mr. Green Saez L 116 L
5 Westover Wildcat Dominguez R A 120 L
6 Barry's Money Castro E 116 L
7 Grand Times Castanon J L 116 L
8 Sum Champ Trujillo E 116 L
9 A Little Warm Rose J 116 L



6th (3:36) Sugar Swirl S. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Bold Union Bravo J 120 L
2 D'wild Ride Castellano J J 116 L
3 Warbling Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Tar Heel Mom Lezcano J 116 L
5 Sailing Time Cruz M R 116 L
6 Saratoga Tango Saez L 116 L
7 Honchis'n Ponchis Maragh R 116 L
8 Thunders Dove Velazquez J R 116 L
9 Pretty Prolific Prado E S 116 L



7th (4:07) Mr. Prospector S. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Past the Point Prado E S 116 L
2 Custom for Carlos Leparoux J R 120 L
3 Prince Joshua Coa D 116 L
4 Munnings Velazquez J R 122 L
5 Gentleman James Castro E 116 L
6 Peace Chant Desormeaux K J 116 L
7 Make Me Zach Rivera J A II 116 L
8 Starforaday Maragh R 116 L
9 Presto Change O Rose J 116 L



8th (4:35) Gulfstream Park Turf Sprint S.

5 Furlongs (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Elusive Warning Garcia Alan 122
2 Red Sky Dubai Coa E M 118 L
3 Big Push Trujillo E 120 L
4 Hatfield Castellano J J 118 L
5 Little Nick Cruz M R 118 L
6 T. D. Vance Desormeaux K J 120 L
7 Just Playin Around Lopez P 118 L
8 Hockeythehayman Velazquez J R 118 L
9 Lighten Up Arango L E 118 L
10 Cooper County Marquez C H Jr 118 L



9th (5:08) Old Hat S. (G3)

6 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 My Jen Castro E 120 L
2 Female Drama Maragh R 120 L
3 Criolla Bonita Lezcano A 120 L
4 Joanie's Catch Lopez P 120 L
5 Cuff Me Dominguez R A 120 L
6 Dances With Ashley Leparoux J R 116 L
7 Touching Beauty Prado E S 116 L
8 Southern Truth Lezcano J 120 L
9 Richiegirlgonewild Thornton T 116 FTL
10 Malibu Legacy Trujillo E 116 L
11 Carphonic Velazquez J R 120 L

Indian Charlie 01-06-2010 08:20 PM

The Old Hat looks like a fun race.

Seven of the eleven entries are undefeated with a record of 16 for 16.

Rudeboyelvis 01-06-2010 09:17 PM

Tar Heel Mom will be awfully tough in the Sugar Swirl, which also has a very nice field. Should be a great day of racing.

cakes44 01-07-2010 07:06 AM

Sugar Swirl really has a graded race named after her? What's next, "The Sutra Stakes"?

JDank34 01-07-2010 12:02 PM

I love Warbling in the Sugar Swirl. Had anticipated her breaking her maiden Derby week and she had numerous small setbacks. She is set to have a very big year.

The Devil 01-07-2010 05:02 PM

Looks like a great Sat. Can't bet a damn race!

RockHardTen1985 01-07-2010 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Tar Heel Mom will be awfully tough in the Sugar Swirl, which also has a very nice field. Should be a great day of racing.


I dont like her at all.

Indian Charlie 01-07-2010 06:55 PM

It's just toooo easy.

Sightseek 01-07-2010 07:06 PM

^^^ jealous of PG's & DrugS' Bromance


70% of showers for Saturday...

Rudeboyelvis 01-07-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I dont like her at all.

Check list for tomorrow:

1. Take out a second mortgage
2. Profit

RockHardTen1985 01-07-2010 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Check list for tomorrow:

1. Take out a second mortgage
2. Profit

Thats fine... Shes simply not that good. Julians horse is clearly most talented and if she moves forward they will not beat her.

ateamstupid 01-08-2010 01:19 AM

I thought they were retiring Bold Union after the Tate. Interested to see how good Warbling really is.

Kasept 01-08-2010 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I thought they were retiring Bold Union after the Tate. Interested to see how good Warbling really is.

I thought the same thing about Kiss the Kid who turned up in the Fort Lauderdale Sunday.

Kasept 01-08-2010 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Thats fine... Shes simply not that good. Julians horse is clearly most talented and if she moves forward they will not beat her.

Clearly most talented?

Tar Heel Mom may not be 'that good', but she's good enough to be a multiple stakes winner. Odd that Gr. I (Test) placed Pretty Prolific doesn't merit a look because according to you elsewhere, Gr. I races are the 'only things that matter'. ML favorite Thunder's Dove and her run of 5 open length wins by a combined 25 lengths hasn't displayed talent? All Orseno's filly (D'wild Ride) has in her favor is four straight wins late last year over four different racetracks including sealed mud and slop strips. Hell, at 20-1 and 12-1, Saratoga Tango and Honchis'n Ponchis are interesting and have faster races on their resumes than Warbling.

Warbling has run two mediocre races and looks like she may have upside, but do some work and dig into the two wins and the questions will start to pile up. She has bested two god awful fields, and that 91 Beyer at KEE is as phony a fig as you'll ever see. There has been ONE winner to come out of that 10/30 MDN group, Patti's Regal Song (Reed/Jamgotchian) who beat an even uglier bunch of no-hopers with an 81 Beyer and then regressed to a 71 in an ALW try.

The ALW group Warbling faced was horrific, starting with Ruth E, the Mott filly she beat in a head bobber. Ruth E broke her MDN in her 11th try before that ALW... The rest? Vegas Wedding was a $30k claim that is running with Turfway 70-Beyer ALW types; Fortune Play a mid 70's Beyer type destined for $25k claimers; Passion Du Coeur was completely out of form with Beyers of 60, 58, 46 and 59 in her last 4 since September; etc., etc.. The others were worse.

Point is, you need a significant forward move from Warbling to beat seasoned stakes horses that have already established that they run races 6-12 lengths faster than Warbling. And she's likely to get bet well below the 6-1 ML. The ONLY thing she has in her favor is the pace scenario, because she sure is far from being 'clearly more talented' than the rest of these...

Monarchos1 01-08-2010 08:16 AM

I wonder how many of these races will be hurt by scratches? I saw somewhere that heavy rain is predicted.

NTamm1215 01-08-2010 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I wonder how many of these races will be hurt by scratches? I saw somewhere that heavy rain is predicted.

Accuweather.com is predicting .30 inches of rain.

NT

cakes44 01-08-2010 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Clearly most talented?

Tar Heel Mom may not be 'that good', but she's good enough to be a multiple stakes winner. Odd that Gr. I (Test) placed Pretty Prolific doesn't merit a look because according to you elsewhere, Gr. I races are the 'only things that matter'. ML favorite Thunder's Dove and her run of 5 open length wins by a combined 25 lengths hasn't displayed talent? All Orseno's filly (D'wild Ride) has in her favor is four straight wins late last year over four different racetracks including sealed mud and slop strips. Hell, at 20-1 and 12-1, Saratoga Tango and Honchis'n Ponchis are interesting and have faster races on their resumes than Warbling.

Warbling has run two mediocre races and looks like she may have upside, but do some work and dig into the two wins and the questions will start to pile up. She has bested two god awful fields, and that 91 Beyer at KEE is as phony a fig as you'll ever see. There has been ONE winner to come out of that 10/30 MDN group, Patti's Regal Song (Reed/Jamgotchian) who beat an even uglier bunch of no-hopers with an 81 Beyer and then regressed to a 71 in an ALW try.

The ALW group Warbling faced was horrific, starting with Ruth E, the Mott filly she beat in a head bobber. Ruth E broke her MDN in her 11th try before that ALW... The rest? Vegas Wedding was a $30k claim that is running with Turfway 70-Beyer ALW types; Fortune Play a mid 70's Beyer type destined for $25k claimers; Passion Du Coeur was completely out of form with Beyers of 60, 58, 46 and 59 in her last 4 since September; etc., etc.. The others were worse.

Point is, you need a significant forward move from Warbling to beat seasoned stakes horses that have already established that they run races 6-12 lengths faster than Warbling. And she's likely to get bet well below the 6-1 ML. The ONLY thing she has in her favor is the pace scenario, because she sure is far from being 'clearly more talented' than the rest of these...

Man, you weren't messing around with that drubbing.

Rudeboyelvis 01-09-2010 11:10 AM

Track Conditions as of Jan 9:

Visual Track Condition: Sealed

Rated Track Condition: Good Turf: Yielding All Races on the Turf Course moved to 72 Ft.

Weather Conditions: Rain Showers

Betsy 01-09-2010 02:21 PM

I never thought Discreetly Mine wanted to go past 7 furlongs, but I thought at least he'd be a good sprinter. Off of today, it's hard not to have doubts - he was brutal. He didn't break that well, but he was in perfect position to overtake the leader........Instead, he just stopped. I know he beat Super Saver twice last year, but it's looking more and more like DM just was more precocious.

Diver67 01-09-2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Betsy
I never thought Discreetly Mine wanted to go past 7 furlongs, but I thought at least he'd be a good sprinter. Off of today, it's hard not to have doubts - he was brutal. He didn't break that well, but he was in perfect position to overtake the leader........Instead, he just stopped. I know he beat Super Saver twice last year, but it's looking more and more like DM just was more precocious.

He got knocked into the rail pretty hard twice; that might have discouraged him but he certainly didn't regroup.


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