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The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 09:49 AM

Wildcat Frankie
 
He's a 2yo Wildcat Heir debuter who won his debut by 15.5 lengths going 5.5fs in a MSW at Calder on Saturday.

Came back with a 95 BSF.

Hattachet trains ... probably will wind up going to someone like Dutrow.

He had a good debut pedigree anyway. His sire won his debut with a 94 Beyer going 5fs at MTH. His dam won her debut as a 2yo by 4 lengths at 30/1 odds. Never amounted to much afterwards.

MISTERGEE 12-14-2009 10:01 AM

The Wildcat Heir horses are winning at a seemingly unprecedented clip. They are making every trainer who has one a winner. Imagine what this years will sell for. Almost all of last years were a gift

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 10:09 AM

He was a nice sprinter ... but kind of a cripple.

I remember that I bet Wildcat Heir in the Breeders Cup Sprint that Lost In The Fog tanked in.

Wildcat Heir was vanned off - and that was it for his racing career.

miraja2 12-14-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He was a nice sprinter ... but kind of a cripple.

Aren't those the two necessary ingredients for most young stallion prospects nowadays?

MISTERGEE 12-14-2009 10:39 AM

it will be interesting to see if these can run past there 2 yo seasons. But you might not need them to if you run them once then sell them to the usual suspects.

cakes44 12-14-2009 11:22 AM

What did he go off at?

Danzig 12-14-2009 11:53 AM

the phones probably started ringing before the horse posed for his picture.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
What did he go off at?

2/1

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
the phones probably started ringing before the horse posed for his picture.

Hatchett also trained a nice Calder maiden winner in 2002.

Midas Eyes broke his maiden by 8 going 5.5f at Calder for Hatchett - got an 84 Beyer.

The Bobby Frankel/Ed Gann machine bought him right after that race.

He won The Swale by almost 10 lengths in 1:21 flat his next start. 110 Beyer and crushed Posse and Whywhywhy.

Midas Eyes only managed a single Grade 1 stakes win for Frankel though ... when you get one that can run an 84 Beyer for Hatchett - and you go to the Frankel machine - big letdown of a purchase.

Sightseek 12-14-2009 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Hatchett also trained a nice Calder maiden winner in 2002.

Midas Eyes broke his maiden by 8 going 5.5f at Calder for Hatchett - got an 84 Beyer.

The Bobby Frankel/Ed Gann machine bought him right after that race.

He won The Swale by almost 10 lengths in 1:21 flat his next start. 110 Beyer and crushed Posse and Whywhywhy.

Midas Eyes only managed a single Grade 1 stakes win for Frankel though ... when you get one that can run an 84 Beyer for Hatchett - and you go to the Frankel machine - big letdown of a purchase.

He also just missed in another G1 to none other than Wildcat Heir.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 01:56 PM

Yep.

Vineyard Haven broke his maiden by over 4 lengths in his debut at Calder, also going 5.5fs - got an 81 Beyer.

Frankel took that one from Lyne Scace after that race. He got back to back Grade 1's from him in the Hopeful and Champagne and than got the Dubai people to overpay bigtime.

Danzig 12-14-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Yep.

Vineyard Haven broke his maiden by over 4 lengths in his debut at Calder, also going 5.5fs - got an 81 Beyer.

Frankel took that one from Lyne Scace after that race. He got back to back Grade 1's from him in the Hopeful and Champagne and than got the Dubai people to overpay bigtime.


smart guy. their choice to pay up, and something i'd warrant they'll continue to do.

cakes44 12-14-2009 02:02 PM

I think I actually bet Midas Eyes in the 2003 BC Sprint(yes, that read 2003 not 2004). I was definitely drinking the Frankel kool-aid that year. It didn't work out for me. F&*king Heat Haze.

Travis Stone 12-14-2009 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He was a nice sprinter ... but kind of a cripple.

I remember that I bet Wildcat Heir in the Breeders Cup Sprint that Lost In The Fog tanked in.

Wildcat Heir was vanned off - and that was it for his racing career.

I did too. I remember waffling big-time on whether or not he would be ready because of all the gaps coming in, but ended-up using him as the key horse in that race. Oops.

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I did too. I remember waffling big-time on whether or not he would be ready because of all the gaps coming in, but ended-up using him as the key horse in that race. Oops.

Yep. I hated most everything in that field ... at least Wildcat Heir had a few real strong races here and there. Too bad we got the crippled version of him that day.

Silver Train won that race...i'm sure you remember.

Silver Train was another sprinter who made his debut at Calder as a 2yo ... only difference is that he wasn't much of an exciting prospect at Calder. George Mikhalides trained him down there ... and he kind of sucked.

Dutrow Jr. took care of that sucking problem in a big way.

Round Pen 12-14-2009 07:01 PM

From What I Understand THe Number that is being thrown Around $1,000,000:eek:

The Indomitable DrugS 12-14-2009 09:25 PM

That's a lot to pay for something that just sold in June for 25K.

http://www.obssales.com/juncatalog/2009/214.wmv


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