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Sightseek 11-30-2009 08:55 PM

Derby Fields
 
I was curious to see how the fields of the past few Derbies have done after the Derby. For the most part, the most successful and durable were the horses who switched to turf after the Derby. The Iron Horse of them all is Imawildandcrazyguy with 31 starts since 2007 (Storm Treasure also has 31, but he has had more time to do it).

I listed mostly their highlights and the number that appears in parenthesis is their number of starts since the Derby.

2009
Mine That Bird - still in training; hasn't won since
Pioneerof the Nile - retired after Preakness
Musket Man - 3rd Preakness; worked 11/27/09
Papa Clem - (4) mid-pack finishes in Stakes
Chocolate Candy - 9th Belmont, 2nd El Cojon, 5th Goodwood, 8th BC Mile
Summer Bird - won Travers, JCGC, Belmont; 2nd Haskell; 4th BC Classic
Join In The Dance - (4) last BC Sprint
Regal Ransom - won Super Derby; 8th BC Classic
West Side Bernie - Dubai?
General Quarters - 9th Preakness; worked 11/27/09
Dunkirk - 2nd Belmont; injured
Hold Me Back - 5th VA Derby; 2nd Travers; not working currently
Advice - 4th Jefferson Cup; last Swaps; not working
Desert Party - ?
Mr. Hot Stuff - allowance non-winner
Atomic Rain - won Long Branch; 6th Haskell; not working
Nowhere to Hide - (5) allowance runner
Friesan Fire - First race since Preakness this week
Flying Private - 4th Preakness; 6th Belmont; last work 11/09

2008
Big Brown (4) Preakness, Haskell, Monmouth
Eight Belles - RIP
Denis of Cork - 2nd Belmont; worked 11/29/09
Tale of Ekati - (8) won Cigar, Jerome; retired 09
Recapturetheglory - (8) allowance winner
Colonel John - (8) won Travers, retired after 5th '09 BC Classic
Anak Nakal - (10) won PA Derby
Pyro - (9) won Northern Dancer, Forego
Cowboy Cal - (12) G2 winner G1 placed
Z Fortune - (6) hasn't raced since 6/09
Smooth Air - (9) injured after 09 Whitney
Visionaire - (5) won Kings Bishop
Court Vision - (12) won Jamaica, Hollywood Derby, Shadwell Turf Mile
Cool Coal Man - (13) Albert the Great Stakes winner 09
Bob Black Jack - (2) won Malibu
Gayego - (8) 4th 09 BC Sprint
Big Truck - (4) worked 11/09
Adriano - (5) won Kent Stakes 08; worked 11/23/09
Monba - (4)

2007
Street Sense - (5) 2nd Preakness, won Dandy, Travers; 4th BC Classic
Hard Spun - (6) won Kings Bishop; 2nd Classic
Curlin - (12) Preakness, JCGC, Classic, DWC, Foster, Woodward
Imawildandcrazyguy - (31) still running in Calder
Sedgefield - (5) not working
Circular Quay - (5) retired spring 08
Tiago (15) last race 09 Goodwood - last
Any Given Saturday - (4) won Haskell
Sam P. (12) raced Churchill 11/09
Nobiz Like Shobiz - (6) won a few g2; 4th BC Mile 07
Dominican - (14) g2/g3 starts
Zanjero - (9) won West Virginia Derby, Indiana Derby last race 9/08
Great Hunter - (7) last start 09 Donn
Liquidity (4)
Bwana Bull (10) - 2nd WV Derby
Storm In May - (18) still racing at Calder
Teuflesberg - (5) won Woody Stephens
Scat Daddy - (0)
Stormello - (1)
Cowtown Cat - (18) series of g2/g3 midpack finishes; retired fall 08

2006
Barbaro - RIP
Bluegrass Cat - (3) won Haskell
Steppenwolfer - (13) 4th Belmont; Steeplechaser
Jazil - (4) won Belmont
Brother Derek - (8) placed graded stakes
Showing Up - won Colonial Turf Cup, Secretariat, Hollywood Derby; retired after running 2nd 07 Makers Mark
Sweetnorthernsaint - (19) claimed this year; won stakes at FL
Deputy Glitters - (9) won Ohio Derby; back in training this fall
Point Determined - (7) won Affirmed
Seaside Retreat - (14) last race 2nd G2 08
Storm Treasure - (31) last race G3 11/09
Lawyer Ron - (11) Whitney and Woodward winner
Cause to Believe - (7) last race 08 Pleasanton
Flashy Bull (9) won Stephen Foster
Private Vow - (3)
Sinister Minister - (7) no wins
Bob and John - (4) won last start at Lone Star
A.P. Warrior - (4)
Sharp Humor - (2)
Keyed Entry - (6) won Deputy Minister '07

MisterB 12-01-2009 07:21 AM

I was a big fan of Scat Daddy
:(

10 pnt move up 12-01-2009 08:49 AM

The 2009 Derby field is looking like its going to be one of the worst of all time.

mbahadur 12-01-2009 12:51 PM

Nice to see Denis of Cork back on the worktab. This colt showed some promise as a 3-year old before getting hurt.

Sightseek 12-02-2009 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
The 2009 Derby field is looking like its going to be one of the worst of all time.

There is still hope for the class of 2009, I lean towards 2005 being the worst:

Giacomo - (8) won San Diego G2 at 4
Closing Argument - (1) 9th Preakness
Afleet Alex - (2) Preakness & Belmont
Don't Get Mad - (6) Indiana Derby G2, Northern Dancer G3
Buzzard's Bay - (17) All American G3, Oaklawn G2 Californian G2
Wilko - (14) 2nd Dubai World Cup
Bellamy Road - (1) Gallant, front-running beautiful 2nd in the Travers
Andromeda's Hero - (18) Fred Hooper G3
Flower Alley - (9) Jim Dandy, Travers, 2nd BC Classic
High Fly - (2) 2nd Jerome G3
Greeley's Galaxy - (9) no wins after Derby hereinafter "nwad"
Coin Silver - (2) nwad
Greater Good - (14) nwad
Noble Causeway - (11) nwad
Sun King - (20) PA Derby G2, Commonwealth G2, 2nd Whitney, Woodward and Met Mile
Spanish Chestnut - (7) won Allowance optional claimer
Sort It Out - (8) nwad
Going Wild - (25) won Michael G. Schaefer, at 6 won Free Spirit, Premium, Zip Pocket
Bandini - (3) won Skip Away G3
High Limit - (7) San Pasquel, Strub

10 pnt move up 12-02-2009 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
There is still hope for the class of 2009, I lean towards 2005 being the worst:

Giacomo - (8) won San Diego G2 at 4
Closing Argument - (1) 9th Preakness
Afleet Alex - (2) Preakness & Belmont
Don't Get Mad - (6) Indiana Derby G2, Northern Dancer G3
Buzzard's Bay - (17) All American G3, Oaklawn G2 Californian G2
Wilko - (14) 2nd Dubai World Cup
Bellamy Road - (1) Gallant, front-running beautiful 2nd in the Travers
Andromeda's Hero - (18) Fred Hooper G3
Flower Alley - (9) Jim Dandy, Travers, 2nd BC Classic
High Fly - (2) 2nd Jerome G3
Greeley's Galaxy - (9) no wins after Derby hereinafter "nwad"
Coin Silver - (2) nwad
Greater Good - (14) nwad
Noble Causeway - (11) nwad
Sun King - (20) PA Derby G2, Commonwealth G2, 2nd Whitney, Woodward and Met Mile
Spanish Chestnut - (7) won Allowance optional claimer
Sort It Out - (8) nwad
Going Wild - (25) won Michael G. Schaefer, at 6 won Free Spirit, Premium, Zip Pocket
Bandini - (3) won Skip Away G3
High Limit - (7) San Pasquel, Strub

That looks like a lot of wins in that field, including a legit nice horse in Sun King....I think its 1-5 2009 is the worst.

Indian Charlie 12-02-2009 09:37 PM

There are some nice horses in the 2009 crop. It's just that most of them didn't make the Derby field.

RolloTomasi 12-02-2009 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Bellamy Road - (1) Gallant, front-running beautiful 2nd in the Travers

I think Steve Haskin might have used your log-in information and amended your post.

Sightseek 12-02-2009 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
I think Steve Haskin might have used your log-in information and amended your post.

:D


I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that...I really liked that horse. :o


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