Zenyatta
 

There's very little liquidity in the exchange markets right now ... but if you don't like Zenyatta ... you can get over $2,000 against her giving away 3.6-to-1 odds right now.

Here's the odds available right now in a loose market that will tighten up a lot more by Saturday.

Mine That Bird (28/1)
Colonel John (26/1)
Summer Bird (7.4-to-1)
Zenyatta (3.1-to-1)
Twice Over (15/1)
Richard's Kid (21/1)
Gio Ponti (15/1)
Einstein (26/1)
Girolamo (39/1)
Rip Van Winkle (2/1)
Regal Ransom (39/1)
Quality Road (12/1)
Awesome Gem (74/1)

You know you are going to lay off the other side at 3 to1

I'm not doing anything with Zenyatta until I see how Lethal Heat and Life Is Sweet run in the Distaff.

WOW...Gio Ponti and Einstein look like big overlays.

If Gio Pionti wins I eat the program

Yup

Still very little liquidity... unless you hate Zenyatta chances at the 3.4-to-3.8 odds range.




Numbers are win odds +1. Back is to win. Lay is to bet against winning.

How difficult is it to set up an account on one of these exchanges?

Impossible if you live in the US. I used to do pretty well laying off odds on favorites on IBETX. They booted all US customers and I can't find an exchange that will accept them.

impossible, they check your IP address and if you have a US account they won't let you bet.

we NEED Betfair in this country.

isnt matchbook an exchange?

also i gave some 3-1 odds on zenyatta winning....i think this was a smart bet...yall agree or will i be paying come sunday?

You can use a proxy server or other means to hide your IP
www.hidemyip.com
You can come in through Canada, Germany, UK, or Asia. You pick the country.

Still will need a physical address outside US at signup.

As a fan of the sport, I would like to see:

(1) Zenyatta win the BC Classic on Saturday.

(2) Stay in training after the BC to face Rachel Alexandra on dirt before being retired to be bred in the spring (which her owners have hinted they might do). The Dubai World Cup on synthetic would be mighty tempting if she were to win the BC Classic against males.

As a fan of seeing good horses race, I definitely do not want to see Zenyatta win Saturday. All it will do is make even more connections take the easiest route possible for the entire year leading up to the BC.

No we dont. We need a system like Betfair that's controlled by horsemen/some national industry pool that allow those types of bets and props, but keeps the money within the industry. The purse structure in Europe is whack.

I honestly don't see how anything they do could change your opinion of how Zenyatta will run in the Classic.

I think they are both a great measuring stick of Zenyatta's form .. Life Is Sweet has been racing just behind Zen earlier and not quite finishing with her ... Leathal Heat has been racing a few lengths in front of Zen earlier ... and not quite finishing good enough.

If LIS and LH run a dominant 1-2 in that order .. I think it makes Zenyatta a little harder to strongly oppose.

However .. if LIS and LH both are soundly beaten and off the board ... I think it really takes some steam away from the rabid argument that Zenyatta's recent form looks markedly worse than it actually is.

I've had a lot of success over the years adjusting my opinion in situations like this. If you don't buy into it... that's fine with me. There's a lot of things I buy into even more kooky than something like that.

zenyatta will lose.....

IF Z does win, what is the the opinion of the forum? Smith said she only ran about 3 strides her last race and granted it was the same old same old she was beating but it looked pretty impressive. Typically, synthetic does not lead to large margin wins and with her style it does not seem she would ever win by a large margin. Also, it seems pretty obvious she does not like DMR so can't you discount that performance. She is 13 - 13 and from the talk it sounds like the opinion is she she has no shot. Has any filly ever won the Classic? Would this be a bigger accomplishment than RA ast SAR? Not saying she will win but she does have a good shot on this surface....and for everyone who has complained about Sheriiffs and the campaign - at least she is not sitting in barn on THE day she is supposed to be running.

Beyer's column in the Washington Post today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...110502549.html