Midnight Cry boys sent away for a spell
 

Until today I thought Shirley was a woman. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Shirley was originally a surname (that's a last name or family name) and it was not unusual for the eldest son to be given the surname of the mother. In my family tree are some gents named Fountain Beauchamp (mum's family had been originally Fontaine, French Huguenots) and Marcy Beauchamp. Guys were named Shirley for decades, if not centuries, until Shirley Temple came along and all of a sudden, it's a girl's name. Same with Beverley.

Josselin (with variations) and Robin had been men's names since the 12th Century at least, but nowdays you see them on females more often. Florenz, the German form of the Dutch Floris, was male name until Miss Nightengale showed up. Hilarius was a 5th Century Pope and many guys were named after him over the centuries, the English form being Hilary. The first notable female I find using the name was born in 1914 she adopted it as a stage name - Hillary Brooke, the buxom blonde from the Abbot and Costello movies.

And, yes, I DO find this stuff interesting.

If I were to die now I feel my life would have reached a sense of completion having read this post.

NT

If someone called me Shirley, even if it WAS my name, I would have to drop them.

So, Pedigree Ann, are you a man or woman? I always assumed female.

nvmd.

"They tried to blame Cincinnati lawyer Stan Chesley for many of the men’s decisions. Chesley, who wasn’t charged with a crime, advised the pair on the fen-phen settlement for a $20 million fee.."


Wow! Isn't that about what the Reds are worth?

Reminded me of:

Hilarius?

Cunningham: Can you buy Curlin from us and send him to stud without the Phen fen people getting any of the proceeds?

Jess Jackson: Shirley, you can't be serious.

Cunningham: I am ser-- look I said don't call me Shirley.

Jackson: Hey pal, that's your name. You're bonkers if you think I'm calling you Mr. Cunningham. We could look at some alternatives though How does 'Convicted Felon' sound? Your cellmate could call you Vicky for short.

I hope you were kidding here. You think people need the definition of "surname"? On a lighter note, I find it comforting when a lawyer uses excessive alcoholism (sic) as a defense.

Don't laugh. There was a Marshal of France in the 16th Century named Anne de Montmorency. He was the Duke of Montmorency, a distinguished soldier and diplomat. He was named 'Anne' because the Queen at the time of his birth, Anne de Bretagne, was his god-mother; always useful to suck up to the royals in those days.

This reminds me of the toughest man I ever met. A NAVY SEAL with the first name Emily.:eek:

I still use that line from Airplane once a week

Oddly enough, a friend and I have been trying for days to remember the last name of a woman we knew in San Diego decades ago. I knew it was kind of French, but couldn't come up with it. It finally came to my friend in a flash this morning--Beauchamp!

--Dunbar

NTAMM is certainly glad he waited for my post before leaving this world.

Rotflmao