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SCUDSBROTHER 06-30-2009 04:03 AM

Something Highly Overrated
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290629119

That is what I think of walk-off wins(especially in extra-inning games.) It often means you're struggling on offense. That's what it almost always has meant for this team. I'd hate to go back over this game n' show ya how many times guys failed to hit in the clutch. Rocks got a single to left with a guy on 2nd base. I guess because there were no outs, the 3rd base coach didn't try to score on Pierre's arm. That's a woman's arm. No doubt he would of scored on that piece of sht arm. Instead, Weaver struck out the next 3 hitters.

timmgirvan 06-30-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290629119

That is what I think of walk-off wins(especially in extra-inning games.) It often means you're struggling on offense. That's what it almost always has meant for this team. I'd hate to go back over this game n' show ya how many times guys failed to hit in the clutch. Rocks got a single to left with a guy on 2nd base. I guess because there were no outs, the 3rd base coach didn't try to score on Pierre's arm. That's a woman's arm. No doubt he would of scored on that piece of sht arm. Instead, Weaver struck out the next 3 hitters.

You're kind of a " glass empty" guy aren't you! These guys will never be the
'27 Yankees!........they won the game....Chill

SCUDSBROTHER 06-30-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
You're kind of a " glass empty" guy aren't you! These guys will never be the
'27 Yankees!........they won the game....Chill

Need Manny back. Offensively we sck right now. 1 run..2 runs...4 runs in 12 or 13 inning games(even that was due to Ethier getting a cookie.)

Gander 06-30-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Need Manny back. Offensively we sck right now. 1 run..2 runs...4 runs in 12 or 13 inning games(even that was due to Ethier getting a cookie.)

So what, you are still winning and with that kind of lead in the worst division in baseball (maybe ever), none of the next 85 or so games even matter. The NL as a whole is pretty awful this year, wouldnt you agree? The Phillies and Mets are both mightily struggling and they are suppose to be the 2 next best teams. Looking like the team you most have to fear is the Cardinals, who always seem to know how to win with very mediocre teams.

horseofcourse 06-30-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=290629119

. Rocks got a single to left with a guy on 2nd base. I guess because there were no outs, the 3rd base coach didn't try to score on Pierre's arm. That's a woman's arm. No doubt he would of scored on that piece of sht arm. Instead, Weaver struck out the next 3 hitters.

That ball was smoked...Pierre got to is so quickly he was throwing it back to the infield before Spillborghs even got to 3rd base. Pierre could have rolled the ball to home plate and would have gotten the out. He could have underhanded it to the center fielder and the center fielder would have relayed the throw to get him out. That would have been the worst 3rd base coaching in the history of the game sending him home there. They had ZERO chance of scoring on that hit. Zero.

Antitrust32 06-30-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
So what, you are still winning and with that kind of lead in the worst division in baseball (maybe ever), none of the next 85 or so games even matter. The NL as a whole is pretty awful this year, wouldnt you agree? The Phillies and Mets are both mightily struggling and they are suppose to be the 2 next best teams. Looking like the team you most have to fear is the Cardinals, who always seem to know how to win with very mediocre teams.


the phillies will be tough come playoffs... they know how to win those games!.. oh who am I kidding... if they dont get another solid starter they aren't even gonna go to the playoffs.

Crown@club 06-30-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
That ball was smoked...Pierre got to is so quickly he was throwing it back to the infield before Spillborghs even got to 3rd base. Pierre could have rolled the ball to home plate and would have gotten the out. He could have underhanded it to the center fielder and the center fielder would have relayed the throw to get him out. That would have been the worst 3rd base coaching in the history of the game sending him home there. They had ZERO chance of scoring on that hit. Zero.

There isn't anyone really wanting to take anything in the NL, but there is no fear in St. Louis. You may fear Pujols, but outside of that is no offense. Besides Carpenter, the pitching staff is very hittable, and not feared. Wainwright has a nice slider, but he's been getting knocked around.

The Phils and the Cubs should right there ships, and along with the Dodgers thats your 3 division winnners.

declansharbor 06-30-2009 10:23 AM

If there was a time for the Metsies to make up ground on the Phils, it would be now. Rollins playing like dog$hit in the leadoff spot, Ibanez on the dl, and the hurlers are looking vulnerable (cept for my man Happ) :rolleyes: ...

this team is going to be tough once they get Raul back (hope he can revert to early season form), and Jimmy starts getting on base, allowing our big dogs to do what they do best. They need to start using Citizen's bank to their advantage and start winning some games there. Or else.

MaTH716 06-30-2009 10:37 AM

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If there was a time for the Metsies to make up ground on the Phils, it would be now. Rollins playing like dog$hit in the leadoff spot, Ibanez on the dl, and the hurlers are looking vulnerable (cept for my man Happ) :rolleyes: ...

this team is going to be tough once they get Raul back (hope he can revert to early season form), and Jimmy starts getting on base, allowing our big dogs to do what they do best. They need to start using Citizen's bank to their advantage and start winning some games there. Or else.

Mikey, the Mets are like a MASH unit. It's amaing that they are only 3 back. No Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Maine, Perez (he sucks anyway) and Putz. That's your 1,3,4 hitters and 2nd & 3rd starters. They are doing it with a minor league offense. Their starting pitching really has not been bad, but they just can't score. Wright is leading the league in hitting, but only has 4 homers. I don't know what they are waiting for but they really have to acquire a bat.

declansharbor 06-30-2009 10:55 AM

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Mikey, the Mets are like a MASH unit. It's amaing that they are only 3 back. No Reyes, Beltran, Delgado, Maine, Perez (he sucks anyway) and Putz. That's your 1,3,4 hitters and 2nd & 3rd starters. They are doing it with a minor league offense. Their starting pitching really has not been bad, but they just can't score. Wright is leading the league in hitting, but only has 4 homers. I don't know what they are waiting for but they really have to acquire a bat.

That team is HURTIN. They should get a shot in the arm once those guys get healthy. Hopefully the good guys (:D ) can stave off a late season charge by the real Mets.

I have no idea where they would turn for a bat. Would they make an attempt at Matt Holiday or another 'name' player?

MaTH716 06-30-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
That team is HURTIN. They should get a shot in the arm once those guys get healthy. Hopefully the good guys (:D ) can stave off a late season charge by the real Mets.

I have no idea where they would turn for a bat. Would they make an attempt at Matt Holiday or another 'name' player?

They were talkin about DeRosa, but the Tribe wanted to much. Other names that have been floated around are, Adam Dunn and Nick Johnson. A problem might be that they really don't have many tradeable chips in the farm/organization.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-30-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse
That ball was smoked...Pierre got to is so quickly he was throwing it back to the infield before Spillborghs even got to 3rd base. Pierre could have rolled the ball to home plate and would have gotten the out. He could have underhanded it to the center fielder and the center fielder would have relayed the throw to get him out. That would have been the worst 3rd base coaching in the history of the game sending him home there. They had ZERO chance of scoring on that hit. Zero.

Truth is somewhere between the 2 extremes. He throws it really slowly. I bet you it would of been offline, too. He struggles just to get the ball back into 2nd base. It would of been rolling really slowly n' slightly offline. It's like he's throwing a shot put(short-bus arm.)

SCUDSBROTHER 06-30-2009 11:30 PM

2 hits tonite. I know my own fkn team.............Gander, Colorado (the 3rd place team in the division) has a better record than Philly does, and is only a game or so behind Milwaukee's division leading record. What are you going by when you say it's the worst division in baseball? Frisco n' the Rocks have both been playing very well. Colorado went to the World Series 2 years ago, and we lost in the NLCS LAST YEAR TO THE WORLD CHAMPS(which is about as good as Tampa did against them.)

Gander 07-01-2009 03:33 PM

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2 hits tonite. I know my own fkn team.............Gander, Colorado (the 3rd place team in the division) has a better record than Philly does, and is only a game or so behind Milwaukee's division leading record. What are you going by when you say it's the worst division in baseball? Frisco n' the Rocks have both been playing very well. Colorado went to the World Series 2 years ago, and we lost in the NLCS LAST YEAR TO THE WORLD CHAMPS(which is about as good as Tampa did against them.)

I think your team is good but the rest are streaky and for the most part flukes. I dont see either the Rockies or Giants being in wild card contention come September, but I hope I am wrong- I'd like to see the Rockies in there again. The Mets and Phillies are both struggling with injuries and just have been flat out awful lately, but I think both are far better than any team in the West (besides LA).

SCUDSBROTHER 07-01-2009 05:24 PM

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I think your team is good but the rest are streaky and for the most part flukes. I dont see either the Rockies or Giants being in wild card contention come September, but I hope I am wrong- I'd like to see the Rockies in there again. The Mets and Phillies are both struggling with injuries and just have been flat out awful lately, but I think both are far better than any team in the West (besides LA).

Well, we took 2 out of 3 from the Rocks, but the Rocks pitching was good all series. We're struggling on offense. So, it's not a great test. Marquis was awesome last night. This Hammel guy has nice stuff. Cook is a reliable starter. Jiminez will go the way the wind blows. They (right now) have enough pitching to contend for the Wild Card. Frisco,for sure, has enough pitching to contend for the Wild Card. I'm sorry, but the Mets are mentally pathetic. Healthy, or not. That's hard to overcome. The Phils are mentally much tougher than any team in the National League. If they can get a little more consistent pitching, they're gunna be very tough for us to get by(Dodgers are Hamels bitch in the back shack.)

PSH 07-01-2009 06:02 PM

SF Gigantes
 
How about those lowly SF Giants. Lead the wild card race on July 1st. I know there is a long way to go but given where they are today they way surpassed any reasonable expectations. Obviously Tim L. and Caine are a the best two young pitchers in the game on the same staff. Randy Johnson and Zito are approaching respectable and that is all you can expect from them. Sanchez has been the problem in the starting rotation but the kid who replaced him in the Brewers series was okay. The bull pen, especially the set up guys have been really strong and Wilson who i am not sold on as a closer is so so.

The bats are starting to come alive and Pablo is close to leading the league in hitting. Need Molina to get hot and Renteria to pick things up. Talk about getting Jerome Dye.

Fun team to watch given the low expectations and think they might stay in WC race for awhile before fading.... Posey at Catcher is at least a year away and Bumgarten is another untouchable young pitcher to add to Caine and Tim L in the next year or two.

Gander 07-01-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, we took 2 out of 3 from the Rocks, but the Rocks pitching was good all series. We're struggling on offense. So, it's not a great test. Marquis was awesome last night. This Hammel guy has nice stuff. Cook is a reliable starter. Jiminez will go the way the wind blows. They (right now) have enough pitching to contend for the Wild Card. Frisco,for sure, has enough pitching to contend for the Wild Card. I'm sorry, but the Mets are mentally pathetic. Healthy, or not. That's hard to overcome. The Phils are mentally much tougher than any team in the National League. If they can get a little more consistent pitching, they're gunna be very tough for us to get buy(Dodgers are Hamels bitch in the back shack.)

What do you think about my team?
That loss last night was abysmal.
Here I was hoping they would start the game back up (Red Sox were up 9-1, middle of the 5th) so they could count it as an official game, and at 9:45 I get my wish, then I wake up this morning to see the final score :eek:

SCUDSBROTHER 07-01-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
What do you think about my team?
That loss last night was abysmal.
Here I was hoping they would start the game back up (Red Sox were up 9-1, middle of the 5th) so they could count it as an official game, and at 9:45 I get my wish, then I wake up this morning to see the final score :eek:

Wouldn't worry about them. They bounced back today, and will easily make the post.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-01-2009 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH
How about those lowly SF Giants. Lead the wild card race on July 1st. I know there is a long way to go but given where they are today they way surpassed any reasonable expectations.

I said they were gunna be pretty good this year. Don't know who I hate more. No, that's not true. Yankees n' T. Baze are tied for 1st. Giants n' Redsox are tired for 3rd.

Crown@club 07-01-2009 10:46 PM

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Fun team to watch given the low expectations and think they might stay in WC race for awhile before fading.... Posey at Catcher is at least a year away and Bumgarten is another untouchable young pitcher to add to Caine and Tim L in the next year or two.

Don't forget about Tim Alderson also. This team could have such a stud staff in the future.


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