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smuthg 06-17-2009 04:07 PM

Nicanor wins again
 
2 for 2 on the turf...

hockey2315 06-17-2009 04:10 PM

He definitely didn't move forward off of the last one. . .

ninetoone 06-17-2009 04:11 PM

Going to be a good bet against someday soon...

declansharbor 06-17-2009 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Going to be a good bet against someday soon...

Next out.

KirisClown 06-17-2009 04:15 PM

Replay..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VqceB2o9WY

SniperSB23 06-17-2009 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KirisClown

Awesome, thanks.

flipsal 06-17-2009 05:02 PM

bad 2-5...did NOT finish well off easy fractions...will be overbet...play AGAINST!

robfla 06-17-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by flipsal
bad 2-5...did NOT finish well off easy fractions...will be overbet...play AGAINST!


minor details, but who is he running against? What will his odds be? What surface? What distance?

I sometimes like to know these minor details before exclaiming to bet AGAINST!

miraja2 06-17-2009 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
minor details, but who is he running against? What will his odds be? What surface? What distance?

I sometimes like to know these minor details before exclaiming to bet AGAINST!

Agreed. He might be a bet-against in his next race, but on the whole he appears to have turned into a pretty decent colt. Given that this was his first against winners and he was stretching out, I thought he looked pretty good in handling his business with relative ease.

Antitrust32 06-17-2009 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
He might be a bet-against in his next race, but on the whole he appears to have turned into a pretty decent colt. Given that this was his first against winners and he was stretching out, I thought he looked pretty good in handling his business with relative ease.


exactly.... A wise man once told me that its one thing beating maidens... but only good horses win first out against other winners. Its impressive.

hockey2315 06-17-2009 05:22 PM

Every horse in the race had one win.

Antitrust32 06-17-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Every horse in the race had one win.


....?

hockey2315 06-17-2009 05:30 PM

It's not like he (was practically all out to) beat stakes caliber horses. He beat a field that's a combined 7/64. He's obviously ok, but he was supposed to beat that field much more easily today. Maybe he has distance limitations, but his pedigree would suggest otherwise.

RolloTomasi 06-17-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
It's not like he (was practically all out to) beat stakes caliber horses. He beat a field that's a combined 7/64. He's obviously ok, but he was supposed to beat that field much more easily today. Maybe he has distance limitations, but his pedigree would suggest otherwise.

Is he also supposed to be as good as he ever will be in his, what, 4th lifetime start?

Do you tell 2nd Graders they're not college material if they don't get straight A's?

hockey2315 06-17-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Is he also supposed to be as good as he ever will be in his, what, 4th lifetime start?

Do you tell 2nd Graders they're not college material if they don't get straight A's?

Did I ever say that he had to be? Just saying it was a step back from his last race. He'll probably turn out ok, but I can't imagine anyone getting excited over his performance today.

3kings 06-17-2009 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Do you tell 2nd Graders they're not college material if they don't get straight A's?

Does my son count? Than yes, I have.:D

philcski 06-17-2009 06:19 PM

I thought he ran well.

pgardn 06-17-2009 06:42 PM

I will wait for a Beyer on that.
That course is funky with the turns.
Even though those fractions dont look that great,
there are a lot of changes in pace due to the turning.
What exactly are good fractions on that course?

A 3 turn mile and 1/8...

jpops757 06-17-2009 06:42 PM

Set the pace, put away the stalkers and held off the closer by about 2. How can you knock a horse that wins when he suppose to. ? Several older horses in there too.Always someone complaining either they had him over his head or he didnt beat anyyone. Looks like they are managing this horse and cashing checks, isnt that the way its suppose to work?

tiggerv 06-17-2009 06:54 PM

He will likely be in the Virginia Derby next so all the FOB's or haters can chime in after that. He is always going to be tough to bet because he takes lots of stupid money. The field today was pretty dreadful but 2-5 was a joke.


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