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GPK 06-02-2009 10:08 PM

Big Papi
 
Keep waiting on his season to turn around...but I think I'm done holding my breath. Where did the bat speed go??

.185 avg with 1 HR in 178 at bats

dalakhani 06-02-2009 10:23 PM

Got old quick. This is the case of many big/overweight slugger without..."supplements". Look at cecil fielder. Same type of Rapid decline.

ateamstupid 06-02-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Got old quick. This is the case of many big/overweight slugger without..."supplements". Look at cecil fielder. Same type of Rapid decline.

Yeah right.

dalakhani 06-02-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah right.

Do you think he never did them or that he was using them before and now that he is off of them his numbers are going down the tubes?

ateamstupid 06-03-2009 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Do you think he never did them or that he was using them before and now that he is off of them his numbers are going down the tubes?

The latter. The dude gained a million pounds and almost instantly began hitting .300-40-130 every year. Fat doesn't increase your power like that. He's only 33, he shouldn't be breaking down naturally yet.

dalakhani 06-03-2009 07:38 AM

Interesting take on the subject from the sports guy. I dont know if i agree but still an interesting read:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4223584

ateamstupid 06-03-2009 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Interesting take on the subject from the sports guy. I dont know if i agree but still an interesting read:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4223584

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that he has a hundred excuses for Ortiz rather than PEDs. It's not like he's a Boston homer or anything.

MaTH716 06-03-2009 09:39 AM

Not having Manny behind him doesn't help his case either.

Gander 06-03-2009 09:47 AM

I never bought into the fact you have to have a superstar batting behind you to do your job well. Especially for someone as great as Ortiz. Is Jason Bay not a good replacement?! What hasnt he done in Manny's absence? The guy has been every bit as good, if not better.

I have no explanation for why Ortiz is behaving the way he is.

Maybe he is like Funny Cide and no longer loves the game.

But then again I am a Boston homer!

MaTH716 06-03-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
I never bought into the fact you have to have a superstar batting behind you to do your job well. Especially for someone as great as Ortiz. Is Jason Bay not a good replacement?! What hasnt he done in Manny's absence? The guy has been every bit as good, if not better.

I have no explanation for why Ortiz is behaving the way he is.

Maybe he is like Funny Cide and no longer loves the game.

But then again I am a Boston homer!

Jason Bay has been dynamite, but I think that pitchers don't fear him like they do with Manny.
Texieria and the whole team for that matter has been much better since A-Rod has been back in the lineup. Like I said, not a knock against Bay, but he's no Manny.

alysheba4 06-03-2009 11:55 AM

:D :D
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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
I'm shocked, SHOCKED that he has a hundred excuses for Ortiz rather than PEDs. It's not like he's a Boston homer or anything.


2 Dollar Bill 06-04-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Keep waiting on his season to turn around...but I think I'm done holding my breath. Where did the bat speed go??

.185 avg with 1 HR in 178 at bats

Kevin.....Keep the Faith....! Go Sox's !


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