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http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...fire-sidelined

Another Jones horse breaks down. I'm stunned.

Few things in the game piss me off more than finding out a horse I bet on was injured before a high profile race such as a TC event and later the connections fess up that they "knew" something just didn't seem right after the race.

If those two fractures have "healing lines" on the films they didn't occur in the Preakness but more likely the Derby which just makes the whole thing ......aww forget it. I should know better by now...

O/U on his retirement date....8/11

Under
He's done enough.

Vinery is probably preparing the stall right now....

I'll take the over. If Pyro can attempt a comeback, anyone can....:D

Hey, 8/11 is my birthday. Sounds like a good date. I expected him to bounce back in the Preakness, now I know why he didn't. Too bad they didn't "check him out" BEFORE the Preakness.

No duh he was injured. Anyone believing him to be sound going into the Preakness needs to find a clue.

I'll take the over on the retirement date. He won't be retired until they 'try' to bring him back but 'decide' he's too nice a horse to risk coming back. I imagine this will happen in the months just before breeding season starts.

or the 'we wanted him back for the bc, but that won't happen so...' off he'll go. i do believe the old fashioned line was 'he won't be the same' so off he went.
hard to say right now tho, with stud fees down and the like. altho, with vinery being half owner, you'd think they'd just ship him home.

makes me wonder about that seven week break before the derby. wonder if there was something cooking back after his last, and that's why they had the big break? i really wondered then if everything was all bright and shiny, that they really intended to do all that.

Bone chips are considered breakdowns now? Poor broken down Rachel Alexandra.

There are plenty of stress fractures that are not visible on even excellent digital radiographs. Nobody here knows if the horse (who was training very well) was radiographed after the Derby and before the Preakness, and vetted perfectly clean; only later to have the stress fracture found, visible only via nuclear scintigraphy.

How do you think he will do as a stallion?

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Does this mean Larry Jones will finally retire? I think he's the one that's done enough. And I mean that in a good way, I understand why he couldn't quit after 8 Belles (RIP) but now he can go and at least regroup.

Respectfully disagree sir....about 2 weeks post fracture the osteoblasts start to repair a fracture and a visible line of repair is evident on plain film. The finding is not subtle. A fracture with a fragment is one of the easiest findings to read on an XRay. In my heart of hearts I just have a feeling that the fans and the betting public were taken for a ride on this one....the horse should never have seen the track at Pimlico.

tell her watz up doc..

Just wondering doc....this injury was not bad enough to keep him from working 5f in less than 1:00 before the Preakness? That was a very solid workout, and one that led me to think he was fine.

If this is the case, I would almost compare this to a cartilage tear I had when I was younger. I could run a mile with no problem, but the swelling would start and the next 2.1 miles I ran would be very rough. Would this be the case with FF?

I'm just being Curious George here.......:D

Hard to know...

Sure it could be like that. Horses can overcome a number of problems for 4 or 5 furlongs that don't start to hamper them until a mile or so...

also as a former athlete you or I probably have had our share of hairline fractures or even small bone chips. Many athletes have this, a jammed finger could lead to a hairline fracture, distance running could lead to a small stress fracture in your shin or something...