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Kasept 05-06-2009 02:26 PM

5/9 (BEL): Peter Pan S. (G2)
 
9th (5:17) Peter Pan S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Stately Character Velasquez C 120 L
2 Hello Broadway Gomez G K 116 Blk-On L
3 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 116 L
4 Brave Victory Maragh R 116 L
5 Scorewithcater Dominguez R A 120 L
6 Imperial Council Prado E S 116 L
7 Al Khali Velazquez J R 118 L

The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 02:28 PM

The infamous Scorewithcater!

slotdirt 05-06-2009 02:38 PM

Didn't Scorewithcater run on like Oaks day?

robfla 05-06-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Didn't Scorewithcater run on like Oaks day?


I think he won the Sunland race, the Borderland Derby or whatever. Beat Mine That Bird by a neck

slotdirt 05-06-2009 02:42 PM

He should be a lock then. Tell me, has he ever run in 45 and 1:10 and change?

The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 03:05 PM

He was 3rd in the Sunland Derby last time out ... was actually two lengths in front of Mine That Bird through the wild 22.07 first quarter.

gales0678 05-06-2009 03:08 PM

lock city drugs -you taking action?

slotdirt 05-06-2009 03:09 PM

I hope they take back eleventy billion lengths and stay on the rail.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-06-2009 03:10 PM

I like Imperial Council in that spot.

NTamm1215 05-06-2009 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I like Imperial Council in that spot.

He finally found a field where he's only the 2nd most overrated 3YO.

NT

Travis Stone 05-06-2009 03:43 PM

Talk about a crop that went from exciting to the other degree in just a matter of weeks.

jms62 05-08-2009 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Talk about a crop that went from exciting to the other degree in just a matter of weeks.

Make that less than a week.. Monday before the Derby things simply started to crumble...

Hickory Hill Hoff 05-08-2009 06:09 AM

Stately Character will like Belmont's wide sweeping turns.

Bobby Fischer 05-08-2009 02:20 PM

For a horse that hasn't been dominating by any means, this will still be Hello Broadway's 4th straight graded stakes race as the favorite (and 5th consecutive race as favorite). Nightstorm is a nice dam, I wonder if it's the half brother to Nobiz thing that has the public so hard up for him? The half brother/ full brother/sister angles have to be one of the best things going for creating underlays lately. Broadway may have a decent shot here though depending on the others.

Interesting to see the blinks come on. Have to assume they were on in the morning?

Broadway showed some promise in the Nashua that he was actually developing some form, and STYLE, and I had hoped to see a similar sustained late run in the Hutcheson. However, form be damned, he was switched to Prado and asked for pace instead, and actually didn't do that bad.
The Tampa either has to do with disliking the track or a lack of talent or a combination of the two.
Then again in Keeneland he had an opportunity to develop some form but with his speed advantage over that group and a good jockey on board, they opted for the win.
Blinkers today and faster works would indicate that he will definitely be up on the pace here in this 1turn 1 1/8th.

It's an interesting field
Charitable Man could be anything
you have horses like Stately Character and Brave Victory who may return to form now that they are being asked for a reasonable task.
Imperial Council could still be an underlay for one or two more races.
It is worth putting some time in and handicapping.

swedejxn 05-08-2009 03:38 PM

You are absolutely correct mr fischer... very intriguing race.... I think Imp council and hello broadway will be significantly bet down.... imp council was runner up to the "proposed" ky derby favorite a couple times.... Hello Broadway is loved by the public... Charitable Man is my play... but you're right... could be anything... and I DO feel Stately Character is sitting on a big one and should get a good trip.... am not leaving out of any plays...

good luck to all

Travis Stone 05-08-2009 04:07 PM

So is Imperial Council going to do his pace-pressing thing again or take back and do his one-run thing?

Mike 05-08-2009 05:53 PM

Charitable Man, if 3-1, would be a nice overlay,IMO

Left Bank 05-08-2009 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robfla
I think he won the Sunland race, the Borderland Derby or whatever. Beat Mine That Bird by a neck

If I am not mistaken,I think Mine That Bird is the 3rd horse to win coming out of the Sunland Derby.Will be interesting to see what happens with Scorewithcater

Bobby Fischer 05-09-2009 04:09 PM

no dumb money
 
no price , i thought NY would bet on Broadway and maybe get suckered for Imperial Council again.

Poos like this are what makes horseracing tough.

I think the 4,and 5 add value to the 2 and 3 here.

I'd much rather bet the 3 and have the 2 be the underlay ,but Hello Broadway isnt out of it by any means

Hello Broadway is a lot better choice than Imperial Council if you don't like the favorite.

Mclaughlin is hit or miss but charitable Man is the pick and at 3-2 this race is a pass.

the_fat_man 05-09-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215
He finally found a field where he's only the 2nd most overrated 3YO.

NT

Hung like a RAT. :rolleyes:

I love it.

Almost as embarrassing as the act (this should be) Gomez and Tagg put together.


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