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Mike 05-03-2009 06:53 PM

Beyer fig for the top 3?
 
Mine That Bird, needs a 104 Beyer Speed fig to be on par with pre-synthetic Preakness Golden Rules


I doubt Poineer of the Nile and Musket Man were close

Riot 05-03-2009 06:55 PM

Beyers are here: http://cristblog.drf.com/crist/

Crist's Sunday column also good one:

"It's amusing to imagine what we'd all be talking about today if Mine That Bird hadn't been in the race or turned in the nifty performance that he did. People would be marvelling at the closest three-way Derby finish ever; comparing it to the Silver Charm-Captain Bodgit-Free House thriller of 1997; focussing on the apprarent contact between Pioneerof the Nile and Musket Man nearing the wire; promoting Pioneerof the Nile as a likely Triple Crown winner who would be the savior of racing; pronouncing this a trio of game, gutsy and above-average colts; and then marching on Castle Beyer with torches and pitchforks when the race got a 95."

Mike 05-03-2009 07:09 PM

I am afraid to say, that that makes Mine That Bird legit, as the Beyer par achieved prior to the Preakness is a 104 (oddly, 1 less than the Derby previous Beyer of 105

Mike 05-03-2009 07:10 PM

THE KENTUCKY DERBY HANDICAPPING BIBLE



REQUIREMENTS

Shall have won or been a close second (less than three lengths) in a mile and an eighth Graded stakes race

Received a Beyer speed figure of 105+ in a route race

Has not had longer than 4 weeks off

Has had three( or more) races at three

Raced as a 2 y.o.


SECONDARY CONSIDERATIONS

Has not been recently ill or having physical problems

Riot 05-03-2009 07:12 PM

The years 2008 --- 2009 are separated, the Derby is last fig

Mine That Bird: 46-70-78-77-76-74 --- 81-80 105

Musket Man: 81-78 --- 92-91-90-98 95

Papa Clem: 69-74-82 --- 94-91-101 95

Pioneerof The Nile: 73-79-73-86-86 --- 95-90-96 95

Mike 05-03-2009 07:20 PM

After I Want revenge Scratched , you now see that historically the Derby was a cluster**** of horses, none of whom(save Dukirk) were qualfied to win. But, Dunkirk was rumored to be having physical problems, and the resultant hoof injury bears fruit

Only Quality Road and Dunkirk, if running in the Preak, alongside of Mine That Bird have the credentials

I Want Revenge is out till late summer; Quality Road will be ready for the Belmont at best

Past Preakness trifectas have often had 2 out of 3 of the Derby finishers, plus an extra

Danzig 05-03-2009 08:31 PM

http://cristblog.drf.com/crist/


rachels beyer, derby beyers, etc

Ronnie 05-04-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike

I Want Revenge is out till late summer

Really? I thought IWR's ailment was still not clear.


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