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2MinsToPost 08-07-2006 05:29 PM

Anybody else agree with this statement.....
 
My most memorable races so far this year have involved a certain couple turf Horses i.e., Cacique, English Channel etc.

Overall, the Stakes Dirt races on the whole this year have been a bore. I remember a couple mid-level Allowance Races more then I do say The Whitney, Wood etc.. Just no good down to the wire with 3 or 4 or more Horses battling too the end. Although Sun King made it interesting.

I sure hope The Breeder's Cup is an improvement. I hate watching races that are over when they make the turn for home.

TitanSooner 08-07-2006 05:31 PM

I only like those races when it's my horse on the lead when they're turning for home :P

GPK 08-07-2006 05:39 PM

I love turf racing a million times better than dirt. I tend to handicap them much better too.

Gander 08-07-2006 05:42 PM

I love whatever racing I happen to be cashing a ticket on. Not partial to grass or dirt. As long as I'm heading to the window after the race and not to Cash Call :mad:

2MinsToPost 08-07-2006 05:48 PM

oh sure the excitement of knowing you are gonna cash is a rush. I am talking strictly from a no - gambling point of view.

i guess, in short, i have become a lover of turf racing and am losing interest every weekend in dirt. it seems turf racing is just a whole lot more exciting, especially as they make the turn for home.

2MinsToPost 08-07-2006 05:49 PM

Tim,

I saw that:p

hockey2315 08-07-2006 05:51 PM

I thought the race that Borel won on Seek Gold was pretty exciting because he was such a bomb. . . can't remember what race it was though. . . it was much more exciting because I didn't bet on it. . .

Downthestretch55 08-07-2006 06:31 PM

Well, I don't really agree.
Ther's a world of difference between dirt and turf in terms of riding styles and the way the horses are trained for each.
The similarity is that on dirt, the back stretch is key. If they are used up there, they are cooked early. Same in a turf race, that's why you see the jock's take a strangle hold. They save the horse for the last furlong and make a dash.
The style of dirt races allows for horses to have very different running styles and remain competitive.
I've seen both great dirt and turf races, so there isn't one type that's preferable to me.
"One man's craving salmon is another man's taste for fish."
DTS


huh?

Danzig 08-07-2006 06:32 PM

turf racing many times is more exciting because there tends to be so many horses still in it at the end....a mad rush to the wire, who got the head bob?!

Downthestretch55 08-07-2006 06:35 PM

Danzig,
I've seen plenty on dirt that came down to that as well.
For sure you have as well.
DTS

Gander 08-07-2006 06:36 PM

Turf racing involves way more luck and trips. Dirt racing traditionally favors the best horse. Not as big of fields and less trouble. Anyone who thinks that you have to be soooo lucky in a turf race is kidding themselves.

Danzig 08-07-2006 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Danzig,
I've seen plenty on dirt that came down to that as well.
For sure you have as well.
DTS


mmmmm, yeah, some do. but i think more often on turf. or maybe it's just me.

Danzig 08-07-2006 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
Turf racing involves way more luck and trips. Dirt racing traditionally favors the best horse. Not as big of fields and less trouble. Anyone who thinks that you have to be soooo lucky in a turf race is kidding themselves.

gorella might argue that point!

Gander 08-07-2006 06:49 PM

Werent people whining after Gorella got a rough trip in the stretch when losing to the great Artie Schiller? Doh!

Danzig 08-07-2006 06:53 PM

yeah, i think so...a lot of people thought she'd have won had she gotten the right ride. but i wish i had a dollar for every time someone blamed a loss on a crap ride, i could retire.

i can really only think of one spell of bad luck really costing a turf horse.

and that was gary stevens hitting the turf right at the finish line when storming home decided to take an abrupt detour.

Gander 08-07-2006 06:56 PM

but i wish i had a dollar for every time someone blamed a loss on a crap ride, i could retire.

Me too. Could have retired years ago.


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