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South Beach Luv 04-21-2009 06:15 AM

Anyone know the plans for Silver City?
 
He posted a workout at Keeneland over the weekend, any chance he ships to CD? Hopefully he'll be back at 6F where he can dominate.

Danzig 04-21-2009 06:19 AM

he's supposed to run in the derby trial.

South Beach Luv 04-21-2009 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
he's supposed to run in the derby trial.

Then I'll have to interrupt the NFL Draft :tro:

Scurlogue Champ 04-21-2009 07:33 AM

Take the lead and get passed?

South Beach Luv 04-21-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
Take the lead and get passed?

I think he holds on at 7.5F and no Old Fashioned

Danzig 04-21-2009 07:54 PM

from drf:


Silver City heads Derby Trial probables

Silver City looks like the biggest name for the $100,000 Derby Trial, the Grade 3 race that opens the Churchill meet Saturday. Trained by Bret Calhoun, Silver City was under consideration for the Derby until he faded badly in the March 14 Rebel Stakes.

Besides Silver City, at least five other 3-year-olds are likely for the 7 1/2-furlong Derby Trial: Checklist, Hamazing Destiny, Hull, Rendezvous, and Santana Six.

packerbacker7964 04-22-2009 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
from drf:


Silver City heads Derby Trial probables

Silver City looks like the biggest name for the $100,000 Derby Trial, the Grade 3 race that opens the Churchill meet Saturday. Trained by Bret Calhoun, Silver City was under consideration for the Derby until he faded badly in the March 14 Rebel Stakes.

Besides Silver City, at least five other 3-year-olds are likely for the 7 1/2-furlong Derby Trial: Checklist, Hamazing Destiny, Hull, Rendezvous, and Santana Six.


Hamazing Destiny has a good chance to win it if he runs.

brianwspencer 04-22-2009 09:34 PM

Running second to Hull?

Other than that, not sure what they're planning with him

Travis Stone 04-22-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Running second to Hull?

Hillswick, who ran third to Hull in his FG win, has since lost twice. Once on the weeds and once at Woodbine. Rendevous, who was fourth, is now a $15k maiden claimer. And the Turfway race, while impressive on paper, was a trounce of a $30k maiden from Ellis and a 2-for-16 $25k claimer from Hawthorne.

He's going to see early speed like he never has before and I think he's a good bet against at anything short.

brianwspencer 04-24-2009 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Hillswick, who ran third to Hull in his FG win, has since lost twice. Once on the weeds and once at Woodbine. Rendevous, who was fourth, is now a $15k maiden claimer. And the Turfway race, while impressive on paper, was a trounce of a $30k maiden from Ellis and a 2-for-16 $25k claimer from Hawthorne.

He's going to see early speed like he never has before and I think he's a good bet against at anything short.

None of which is news to me.

And I wasn't actually that impressed with the Turfway race on paper, but he's bred to be a better horse on conventional dirt anyway. On the other hand, I couldn't have been any more impressed with his debut and the way he did it.

He stopped the clock in a wicked time that day. Down the Road won a maiden race earlier that day in 1:12 and came right back to win. Cush won a high-end statebred allowance race in 1:10.3, and he rattled off three huge, very fast races all meet. The Pan Zareta stakes for older fillies and mares went in 1:11.

All of which didn't touch Hull's 1:10.2.

I know raw times are subject to analysis, but it's not like he just scored an impressive running line because he beat a bunch of nobodies....he ran like hell, putting away horses he was supposed to put away if he was any good, killed the clock, and then took a bit of a step back on a surface he arguably will like less in his second start.

He hasn't done anything wrong yet, and he's undoubtedly still got room to improve and we're not sure where his ceiling is yet. I freely admit in my analysis of this race that's out there right now that he's taking a huge step up here...but he's exciting, and there's no way at all of knowing what he's capable of. So until I find out that he's capable of losing, I'll stick with him.

freddymo 04-24-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv
He posted a workout at Keeneland over the weekend, any chance he ships to CD? Hopefully he'll be back at 6F where he can dominate.


I hear the Slaughter House Million in Mexico City is next...

SOREHOOF 04-24-2009 06:03 PM

I like the 2. This race is pretty open. Silver should win but I don't think so. Hull looks tough for sure. Checklist will be tough.

Travis Stone 04-24-2009 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
He hasn't done anything wrong yet, and he's undoubtedly still got room to improve and we're not sure where his ceiling is yet. I freely admit in my analysis of this race that's out there right now that he's taking a huge step up here...but he's exciting, and there's no way at all of knowing what he's capable of. So until I find out that he's capable of losing, I'll stick with him.

I think it depends on price. I'm not sure how they'll bet him. I do think the abundance of speed could be an issue, however.

brianwspencer 04-24-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I think it depends on price. I'm not sure how they'll bet him. I do think the abundance of speed could be an issue, however.

I probably won't get the price I'm hoping for...highly doubt he sticks at his ML price, which I would think was incredibly fair. 5-2 or better and in my book, he'd be a fair price. Something tells me he'll be overbet though. Still think he wins.

Scav 04-24-2009 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
I probably won't get the price I'm hoping for...highly doubt he sticks at his ML price, which I would think was incredibly fair. 5-2 or better and in my book, he'd be a fair price. Something tells me he'll be overbet though. Still think he wins.

Unfortuntely I think you are screwed because I like him also....

brianwspencer 04-25-2009 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Unfortuntely I think you are screwed because I like him also....

Nearly 7-2!

Came home slowly, but saw a wicked pace, sat just up on it and did exactly what he was supposed to do.

Couldn't love this guy much more.

Bobby Fischer 04-25-2009 05:12 PM

When you see a horse like Silver City go faster than is possible to finish, twice in a row in stakes route races, either the horse can't rate or the trainer/jockey is mishandling them. Same goes for Old Fashioned (even though he did it 3 times in a row and won one of them).

Hard to win a 7.5furlong race without rating(or with stupid handling) unless you really tower over the field. Especially off two quitting efforts.

Scav 04-25-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Nearly 7-2!

Came home slowly, but saw a wicked pace, sat just up on it and did exactly what he was supposed to do.

Couldn't love this guy much more.

He looked really good in the paddock, Preakness I heard was next, could be dangerous there

DaTruth 04-25-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
When you see a horse like Silver City go faster than is possible to finish, twice in a row in stakes route races, either the horse can't rate or the trainer/jockey is mishandling them. Same goes for Old Fashioned (even though he did it 3 times in a row and won one of them).

Hard to win a 7.5furlong race without rating(or with stupid handling) unless you really tower over the field. Especially off two quitting efforts.

Maybe they should send Silver City to Mary Hartman and see if she can stretch him out to 11 furlongs on the turf like she has done with Precious Passion.:)

brianwspencer 04-25-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
He looked really good in the paddock, Preakness I heard was next, could be dangerous there

He's bred to handle two turns with ease....could be capable of anything.


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