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smuthg 03-31-2009 10:40 AM

Oaklawn Handicap probables...
 
WTF? is this the best field they can get for $500K?

It's a Bird is co-highweighted at 119 pounds with fellow probable Honest Man. Officials also expect Secret Getaway, Magnum, Prom Shoes, Catmantoo, and Runforthedoe. Possibles include Golden Yank, Victory Pete, and Star Guitar.

Scav 03-31-2009 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
WTF? is this the best field they can get for $500K?

It's a Bird is co-highweighted at 119 pounds with fellow probable Honest Man. Officials also expect Secret Getaway, Magnum, Prom Shoes, Catmantoo, and Runforthedoe. Possibles include Golden Yank, Victory Pete, and Star Guitar.

There is no older horses and if there was, they would have run for 5 millie in the desert

NTamm1215 03-31-2009 11:00 AM

Does Tiago still have a toothache or whatever the hell was bothering him?

You'd think they'd bring him over for a title defense.

Seriously, the OP Handicap was rendered insignificant years ago. It isn't even a better race than the New Orleans Handicap.

NT

jms62 03-31-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
Does Tiago still have a toothache or whatever the hell was bothering him?

You'd think they'd bring him over for a title defense.

Seriously, the OP Handicap was rendered insignificant years ago. It isn't even a better race than the New Orleans Handicap.

NT

Hope they do because than I will have a trifecta Key with Tiago in 3rd...

blackthroatedwind 03-31-2009 11:09 AM

The Excelsior will be a better race. Can't be worse. At least we have the best older horse in America, Barrier Reef of course, running.

blackthroatedwind 03-31-2009 11:10 AM

The prior comment, of course, was off the record.

smuthg 03-31-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
There is no older horses and if there was, they would have run for 5 millie in the desert

Fair point, but what about Commentator? Tiago (he won it last year)? Rail Trip? Grasshopper? Delightful Kiss? Dry Martini? Great Hunter?

Scav 03-31-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
Fair point, but what about Commentator? Tiago (he won it last year)? Rail Trip? Grasshopper? Delightful Kiss? Dry Martini? Great Hunter?

Commentor gets to run for a million against claimers at Charles Town. Rail Trip is being eased along and pointed towards a Hollywood campaign. All of a sudden Grasshopper is a grass horse

Not sure on the others

Scav 03-31-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Hope they do because than I will have a trifecta Key with Tiago in 3rd...

That would be a ticket you would be ripping up, Tiago would dust that prospective field, with the return to real dirt

smuthg 03-31-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Commentor gets to run for a million against claimers at Charles Town. Rail Trip is being eased along and pointed towards a Hollywood campaign. All of a sudden Grasshopper is a grass horse

Not sure on the others

I forgot Commentator was going 4 turns at the Chuck...

Habersham000 03-31-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Commentor gets to run for a million against claimers at Charles Town. Rail Trip is being eased along and pointed towards a Hollywood campaign. All of a sudden Grasshopper is a grass horse

Not sure on the others

I think you will see Macho Again in that race at Charles Town...at least a very reliable source told me so.

smuthg 03-31-2009 11:23 AM

luckily Oaklawn made up for the stellar Handicap field with a match race between Proud Spell and Acoma in the Apple Blossom...

Scav 03-31-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000
I think you will see Macho Again in that race at Charles Town...at least a very reliable source told me so.

I doubt Commentor is afraid of that lug :)

blackthroatedwind 03-31-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
luckily Oaklawn made up for the stellar Handicap field with a match race between Proud Spell and Acoma in the Apple Blossom...


Hold on to that thought for a second.....



http://www.drf.com/news/article/102606.html

philcski 03-31-2009 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Hold on to that thought for a second.....



http://www.drf.com/news/article/102606.html

that's a bummer.

smuthg 03-31-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Hold on to that thought for a second.....



http://www.drf.com/news/article/102606.html

well, that's just wonderful...

parsixfarms 03-31-2009 11:53 AM

Two thoughts from that article: (1) how in the world could Proud Spell and Acoma be co-weighted at 120 lbs; and (2) isn't Seventh Street a more likely winner than Acoma?

smuthg 03-31-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Two thoughts from that article: (1) how in the world could Proud Spell and Acoma be co-weighted at 120 lbs; and (2) isn't Seventh Street a more likely winner than Acoma?

well, not sure what the conditions are for the Apple Blossom, but Proud Spell hasn't won a race in 8 months and Acoma is a GIII winner within the last 5 weeks...

parsixfarms 03-31-2009 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
well, not sure what the conditions are for the Apple Blossom, but Proud Spell hasn't won a race in 8 months and Acoma is a GIII winner within the last 5 weeks...

The race is a handicap. By that logic, when Commentator and Macho Again meet, they should carry the same weight.

blackthroatedwind 03-31-2009 12:31 PM

If it was a Handicap, and Proud Spell and Acoma were assigned equal weights, then something doesn't make sense.

I think Handicaps should be abolished, but if you are going to have one, at least have some sense of fairness.


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