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the_fat_man 02-28-2009 10:45 PM

SHUFFLED BACK: shaking off a troubled trip
 
Too much is made of horses that get shuffled back BUT don't run afterwards. For an example of how a (real) horse overcomes getting shuffled back, check out

LRL_01_21_09_R1, #3 Wild Repent.

(who just happens to be running back tomorrow at PHA)

sumitas 03-01-2009 03:35 AM

the point of this post is what ? if you have a clear point please make it .

cakes44 03-01-2009 09:22 AM

It seems pretty clear to me. Many people watch a race and see a check or shuffle back, or see those things in the trouble line, and assume that was the reason the horse didn't win the race...when in reality, the horse didn't do any running after the trouble anyway, so it didn't make much difference. The only ones that are bet- backs are the ones who ran into that kind of troubled trip, and then did some serious running once they have running room.

CSC 03-01-2009 10:38 AM

This is why horseracing is such a wonderful excercise in opinion and this reflects in the variance of odds...Interpretation, you ask 100 people of a trip and I'll wager you will not get the same identical interpretation from each individual.

pweizer 03-01-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
the point of this post is what ? if you have a clear point please make it .

TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul

Danzig 03-01-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer
TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul

i thought this was his intent as well.

Scav 03-01-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pweizer
TFM was trying to help educate people so we could become better handicappers. he did this by pointing to a common mistake people make and providing a good example of how to use this angle. And he did all of this before the horse ran back providing a wagering opportunity as well. I think the correct response should be thank you.

Paul

exactly

eajinabi 03-01-2009 12:48 PM

This horse is scratched today. I will put this horse on my watch list though. Thanks TFM for the heads up!

pgardn 03-01-2009 01:09 PM

Any horse that tries to run back the next day
will be looked at closely. Or even a week after,
if it is not some cheap claimer.

pgardn 03-01-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Huh?


I assumed the horse had run (shuffled back) recently as was
being run back.

My bad.

Danzig 03-01-2009 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
I assumed the horse had run (shuffled back) recently as was
being run back.

My bad.

i think he ran 1/21-so it was just over a month ago.

pgardn 03-01-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think he ran 1/21-so it was just over a month ago.

yes maam.
me bad.

As per fatmans original post... I dont know the diff. between 1/21 and 2/21
apparently.


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