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Indian Charlie 02-19-2009 12:33 PM

Will this be the biggest trainer move down in history?
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/101766.html

Wolfson to Tagg for a juiced out of her mind filly sprinter?

pweizer 02-19-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
http://www.drf.com/news/article/101766.html

Wolfson to Tagg for a juiced out of her mind filly sprinter?

It has to be. Of course Tagg has never trained a horse of any significance and never won any important races.

Oh, and please post the results of the drug test you must have because I missed the link to the positive result.

I certainly hope the filly can't run. If she succeeds with Tagg, what conspiracy will we focus on next?

Paul

Kasept 02-19-2009 01:20 PM

Here is Frolic's Dream a couple hours before the Forward Gal..

As you can plainly see, she is dangerously crazed from the 'juice'..



alysheba4 02-19-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Here is Frolic's Dream a couple hours before the Forward Gal..

As you can plainly see, she is dangerously crazed from the 'juice'..



.....wow, she is like your pet kasept;)

Kasept 02-19-2009 01:32 PM

Another shot... I was pretty frightened because of her highly aggressive state and wild-eyed demeanor..


The Indomitable DrugS 02-19-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Here is Frolic's Dream a couple hours before the Forward Gal..

And here she is looking like a dog biscuit at the OBS June '08 fire sale where she RNA'd.

http://obssales.com/juncatalog/2008/335.wmv


Though - she didn't get any pre-preview TLC from Kasept that day - so who knows.

dagolfer33 02-19-2009 01:48 PM

The evidence is all there.

Antitrust32 02-19-2009 02:35 PM

Steve,

Do you think Running Stag was juiced when he tried to eat you? :p

SCUDSBROTHER 02-19-2009 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Here is Frolic's Dream a couple hours before the Forward Gal..

As you can plainly see, she is dangerously crazed from the 'juice'..



(Cute couple) Marry that one.

GBBob 02-19-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Cute couple. Marry that one.

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ateamstupid 02-19-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
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I laughed.

jms62 02-19-2009 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Here is Frolic's Dream a couple hours before the Forward Gal..

As you can plainly see, she is dangerously crazed from the 'juice'..



You can see it in her eyes ;)

Danzig 02-19-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
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lol

Merlinsky 02-19-2009 04:31 PM

It's always the quiet ones. ;) She's definitely "fierce." (Project Runway definition)

Indian Charlie 02-19-2009 06:34 PM

Wow.

Who'd have thunk it that DrugS is the only person on here hopelessly deluded.

That's right, Wolfson doesn't juice! Silly me.

Kasept 02-19-2009 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Wow. Who'd have thunk it that DrugS is the only person on here hopelessly deluded. That's right, Wolfson doesn't juice! Silly me.

Why should your flippant approach to the topic not get a similar treatment? And if her performance(s) are so obviously aided, why the purchase interest from "straight arrows" like the Jacksons and Tagg?

Indian Charlie 02-19-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Why should your flippant approach to the topic not get a similar treatment? And if her performance(s) are so obviously aided, why the purchase interest from "straight arrows" like the Jacksons and Tagg?

I suppose they are possibly gullible, like you??

Just my best guess though.

Let me ask you, and everyone else that won't believe their own eyes.

How is it that these miracle trainers (such as Wolfson) can move horses way up, beyond any realistic expectations that is, using just improved training methods, but after a meteoric rise, they almost always flame out just as spectacularly.

I can't wait to understand this one thing.

Kasept 02-19-2009 08:43 PM

Yeah. I imagine 70yo Tagg to be quite a rube. I'm well aware what edges guys are taking. I just find it grossly unfair that some are accused with such ferocious zeal and glee while others seem to escape such attacks for whatever reason.

Indian Charlie 02-19-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Yeah. I imagine 70yo Tagg to be quite a rube. I'm well aware what edges guys are taking. I just find it grossly unfair that some are accused with such ferocious zeal and glee while others seem to escape such attacks for whatever reason.

Age means nothing. The guy doesn't strike me as being particularly of sound mind anyways.

Do you feel I accuse with ferocious zeal and glee? I've always thought I kinda suffer from a serious case of apathy most of the time.

As for letting others escape for whatever reason, I pretty much call it as I see it. I've openly ripped on many trainers here and have predicted downturns in certain trainers performances.

Probably the main reason I said anything in the first place about Frolic's Dream is because she's a fun horse to watch. That and I have her in my TVG contest and now won't get points with her.

SCUDSBROTHER 02-19-2009 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Yeah. I imagine 70yo Tagg to be quite a rube. I'm well aware what edges guys are taking. I just find it grossly unfair that some are accused with such ferocious zeal and glee while others seem to escape such attacks for whatever reason.

Glee? I think "glee" might be the appropriate way to describe it for a minority, but the correct characterization is "anger." This is not as funny as some seem to think. Sometimes I hear all the complaining about the state of the industry, and need(atleast temporarily) for slot money to sweeten purses. I'll tell you exactly why this industry is struggling. It's because people ignore the complaints of the customers that don't want to cap trainers. We want to cap horses. When the industry stops denying this problem, you'll see the value of the product come back. Look, you've got a trainer claiming a horse(off a trainer that won four Breeders Cup Races on one day in 2003) for $62,500. The new trainer easily wins a $100k stakes race right off the claim. By the way, this 60k goes right into his pocket, because the new trainer owns the horse. The old trainer never won a stakes with the horse. He's won a ton of stakes, but couldn't win one with this horse. This is the problem with your industry. Right here. You want people to bet, and get new friends to bet etc. Guess what? Ain't gunna happen. There aren't that many people willing to put up with this crap. Slot money isn't the answer. The answer is to give people something a lot more clean to bet on. As long as people refuse to do that, this industry will struggle(as it should.) Yea, you're surprised you have to sell the product, but you have to. That's because people don't particularly have a fondness for a product they see as unfair. You can tell people it's fair, but that's just not what they see in front of them. Pretty much this is it. This is pretty much the limit to the amount of people willing to tolerate this garbage going on.


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