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Betsy 01-23-2009 06:08 PM

Candle Maker
 
I was wondering if anyone saw this fillies performance today at GP? She's a daughter of Tapit out of a Wild Again mare and she won very nicely on the turf today. Thoughts?

Also, as I'm following all offspring of Tapit, do any of you have thoughts on Poltergeist? He's just an allowance winner, but he is coming off of a 6 length win at OP. I just wonder if if I have any reason to get my hopes up........

thanks!

Kasept 01-23-2009 06:42 PM

Impressive performance and broke bad to boot. Had given no clue preparing in the a.m. that a run like that was coming.

Betsy 01-23-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Impressive performance and broke bad to boot. Had given no clue preparing in the a.m. That a run like that was coming.

Thanks! I'm going to see if I can catch the replay on Cal Racing - what a great site that is.

jpops757 01-23-2009 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
I was wondering if anyone saw this fillies performance today at GP? She's a daughter of Tapit out of a Wild Again mare and she won very nicely on the turf today. Thoughts?

Also, as I'm following all offspring of Tapit, do any of you have thoughts on Poltergeist? He's just an allowance winner, but he is coming off of a 6 length win at OP. I just wonder if if I have any reason to get my hopes up........

thanks!

Gary West was touting Poltergeist in hiis weekend ,Star tekegram colum. Im going to Vagas for super bowl annd if I can get100/1 or better I will take a $20 shot.Im thinking if he steps up in the Southwest or ships to FG and does well it can be a nice chance. I want take him unless I can get triple diget odds. I have been looking for a triple diget colt for a future and he is my pick.

Betsy 01-23-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
Gary West was touting Poltergeist in hiis weekend ,Star tekegram colum. Im going to Vagas for super bowl annd if I can get100/1 or better I will take a $20 shot.Im thinking if he steps up in the Southwest or ships to FG and does well it can be a nice chance. I want take him unless I can get triple diget odds. I have been looking for a triple diget colt for a future and he is my pick.

The Southwest is going to be a very, very tough race. I'd be thrilled if Poltergeist just put in a good effort..........

Kasept 01-23-2009 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Since I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere here, I thought Pinckney Hill was pretty impressive on Thursday breaking his maiden. Is a half to a decent turfer English Colony and I think you'll like this one's sire.

Good call Hossy.. That was another sharp effort.

Betsy 01-23-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Since I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere here, I thought Pinckney Hill was pretty impressive on Thursday breaking his maiden. Is a half to a decent turfer English Colony and I think you'll like this one's sire.


I was going to post about that, but I decided in the end not to clutter up this board with "what did you think about this horse " posts, when most of them would be by Indy, lol.

Yep, he looked good that day, at least per the chart. Indy does ok on the turf, but nothing special. His sons have had better success - Pulpit is very good (I know he's not considered a turf sire, but he's had a lot of good horses on that surface) and Tapit has Laragh in his first crop. I don't want to see Stardom Bound on turf because it means she likely isn't as good on dirt as she is on poly, but I know Chris Paasch thought she would be outstanding on turf.

Merlinsky 01-23-2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Betsy
I was going to post about that, but I decided in the end not to clutter up this board with "what did you think about this horse " posts, when most of them would be by Indy, lol.

Yep, he looked good that day, at least per the chart. Indy does ok on the turf, but nothing special. His sons have had better success - Pulpit is very good (I know he's not considered a turf sire, but he's had a lot of good horses on that surface) and Tapit has Laragh in his first crop. I don't want to see Stardom Bound on turf because it means she likely isn't as good on dirt as she is on poly, but I know Chris Paasch thought she would be outstanding on turf.

Thanks for the heads up. I enjoy hearing about Tapits. I saw someone's foals back when she had a first crop Tapit filly and that one stuck out for me the most. She was just gorgeous.

I don't think Stardom Bound will have a chance to go dirt before the Derby/Oaks. Sounds like they're aiming for the SA Derby. Not sure that turf is an indication that she's not good on dirt as Barbaro got set up there and did just fine. Is there a chicken and the egg thing for some horses with synthetics in California? I mean was an owner keeping horses in CA already and the tracks happen to become synthetic or was a horse sent there because the tracks got turned into synthetic? I don't know that it's always the reason that people give for betting on a horse, that a particular one might not be good on dirt since they only raced on CA tracks up to now. Maybe circumstances just kept them off dirt like a preferred coast or trainer. Am I oversimplifying things? I just don't rule out west coast horses point blank unless I find out there was a reason they avoided dirt that had to do with physical problems or they tried it and clearly couldn't handle it.

Betsy 01-24-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Thanks for the heads up. I enjoy hearing about Tapits. I saw someone's foals back when she had a first crop Tapit filly and that one stuck out for me the most. She was just gorgeous.

I don't think Stardom Bound will have a chance to go dirt before the Derby/Oaks. Sounds like they're aiming for the SA Derby. Not sure that turf is an indication that she's not good on dirt as Barbaro got set up there and did just fine. Is there a chicken and the egg thing for some horses with synthetics in California? I mean was an owner keeping horses in CA already and the tracks happen to become synthetic or was a horse sent there because the tracks got turned into synthetic? I don't know that it's always the reason that people give for betting on a horse, that a particular one might not be good on dirt since they only raced on CA tracks up to now. Maybe circumstances just kept them off dirt like a preferred coast or trainer. Am I oversimplifying things? I just don't rule out west coast horses point blank unless I find out there was a reason they avoided dirt that had to do with physical problems or they tried it and clearly couldn't handle it.

You're welcome!

I think SB will handle dirt just fine, but you're right - she's not going to have a chance to try it before the Derby/Oaks. I guess it's similar to the reason that some trainers give for not training their horses at Churchill before the Derby to see how they handle the track - what's the point? The horses are still going to run in the race, so testing them out prior to the race is pointless.

I'm very surprised, but pleasantly so, by Tapit. I almost forgot about him, to be honest. He's a beautiful, beautiful horse - he looks like a marble statue.

VOL JACK 01-24-2009 09:58 AM

CANDLE MAKER: 77 BEYER
Not bad after you factor that she lost 2-3 lengths at the break and was blocked at the top of the stretch. However, it did look like a fairly weak group. I still think she has a bright future.


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