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Bigsmc 12-15-2008 04:40 PM

Tampa Wednesday - Race 1
 
I have never seen anything like this. In the first race, the 1 - Rexon's Halo's last ten comment lines read (newest race first, like The Form prints them):

Refused to break (He was the $.90 chalk in this one!!)
Dwelt badly start
Hesitated start
Hesitated start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
No factor
Hesitated start

Obviously, this horse is still a maiden. Pretty incredible. I would love to hear trainer/owner, Barry Rose's story behind what he has tried to do with this one in the morning to get him to break better. I would think everything short of eye of newt.

TheSpyder 12-15-2008 04:42 PM

And he was the favorite last out:zz:

Bigsmc 12-15-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
And he was the favorite last out:zz:

As an 0 for 16 maiden no less.

He finished 2nd in his previous two races, so the lemmings emerged.

Rudeboyelvis 12-15-2008 05:52 PM

I'm glad you saw this - was going to post the same thing

dwell (dwl)
intr.v. dwelt (dwlt) or dwelled, dwell·ing, dwells
1. To live as a resident; reside.



lol

Rudeboyelvis 12-15-2008 05:55 PM

Sad thing is he closes like a fiend... you gotta figure his going to go when they open one of these days...Hasn't been horrible in last 2 gate drills

Cannon Shell 12-15-2008 06:57 PM

I'd like to know what happened in his 'no factor' race. maybe the chartcaller missed something?

Hickory Hill Hoff 12-15-2008 07:04 PM

Send him over the hurdles at the Spa.

Bigsmc 12-15-2008 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'd like to know what happened in his 'no factor' race. maybe the chartcaller missed something?


Apparently, he didn't dwell or hesitate, BUT he still broke last in that race.

Bigsmc 12-15-2008 07:14 PM

How about one of those gate blankets with a buzzer sewn into it?

Rudeboyelvis 12-15-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I'd like to know what happened in his 'no factor' race. maybe the chartcaller missed something?

Started far outside post - broke with the field then veered out - raced wide most of the way and made up ground in the stretch missed photo for show ...


... is a little more like it. How he could have been considered "no factor" is pretty dubious. He wasn't getting to the first two but ran down the rest of them in the stretch...

VOL JACK 12-15-2008 08:41 PM

Still to date the funniest thing Ive ever saw at the start of a race is when Ma's Meatballs broke from the #1 post; He walked out of the gate and right around to the back of the gate. :D
Worth watching if anyone has a race replays acct. Search Ma's Meatballs. Im pretty sure it was his last race at TWP.

scanman 12-16-2008 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I have never seen anything like this. In the first race, the 1 - Rexon's Halo's last ten comment lines read (newest race first, like The Form prints them):

Refused to break (He was the $.90 chalk in this one!!)
Dwelt badly start
Hesitated start
Hesitated start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
Dwelt start
No factor
Hesitated start

Obviously, this horse is still a maiden. Pretty incredible. I would love to hear trainer/owner, Barry Rose's story behind what he has tried to do with this one in the morning to get him to break better. I would think everything short of eye of newt.

Yeah and his 7 (all MSW at Calder) before that read:

Outrun (broke last)
Off slowly
Showed little (broke 8th out of 9)
Checked 1st turn (broke last)
Bumped early (broke last)
Bumped st, outrun (broke 8th out of 10)
Slow start

Could be that this guy just HATES the gate.

Reminds me of a horse I saw run in Ireland at the Laytown meeting last year. Racing at Laytown is a one day meeting on the beach about 40 miles north of Dublin. Trainer brings a horse over from England with horrible form. Of course, the horse "won for fun" at 5-1. Next day, I read in the paper where the trainer states that he specifically brought the over to run at Laytown because all the races were started with a "tape start" (no starting gate) and that the horse hated the starting gate (nothing like inside info).

Maybe they ought to give this guy a chance on the jumps circuit. He's a 3 yr old that still has lots of time to develop. He's shown a bit of form in the last 2 races that he completed. After Wednesday, he will be eligible for a Starter Allowance-type race for Florida-breds, 1 1/4 mile, at the Little Everglades Steeplechase meet on March 8th (provided they write that race again this year). It would be interesting to see how he would do racing from a flag start.

Rudeboyelvis 12-16-2008 12:49 PM

This is still an awfully bad bunch of coconuts - he could easily spot them 5 lengths on the break and close...That the trouble - you have to take a short price and get lucky or play against and hope he can't overcome the start. Not for my money - I'm going to be watching this one...

Bigsmc 12-16-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
This is still an awfully bad bunch of coconuts - he could easily spot them 5 lengths on the break and close...That the trouble - you have to take a short price and get lucky or play against and hope he can't overcome the start. Not for my money - I'm going to be watching this one...

Live or on TV?

No way that horse gets a dime of my money. Not sure who will yet, be he will not.

Scanman, do you go to the Little Everglades races?

scanman 12-16-2008 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Scanman, do you go to the Little Everglades races?

Bigs,

Last year was my first visit to Little Everglades. I've been to all but a handful of the "jumps" venues and this by far is one of the best. Fantastic grass course, tragic that it is only used once a year for racing. Had the chance to meet and chat with Bob and Sharon Blanchard. They put on a great day of racing. Too bad, they and the NSA can't get on the same page and it looks like it will be a non-sanctioned meet again this year. I plan to attend again this year. Will you be there?

jballscalls 12-16-2008 02:01 PM

There was a horse like this at Emerald this summer named Soap Lake. every start he would miss and then come flying. The problem was people kept betting him in anticipation that he would have a good start and it just didnt happen.

Bigsmc 12-16-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scanman
Bigs,

Last year was my first visit to Little Everglades. I've been to all but a handful of the "jumps" venues and this by far is one of the best. Fantastic grass course, tragic that it is only used once a year for racing. Had the chance to meet and chat with Bob and Sharon Blanchard. They put on a great day of racing. Too bad, they and the NSA can't get on the same page and it looks like it will be a non-sanctioned meet again this year. I plan to attend again this year. Will you be there?

I will be there. Great day out for the family. We have a spot in the infield on the "backstretch".

Is there as story as to why it is not sanctioned by the NSA?

Rudeboyelvis 12-16-2008 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Live or on TV?

Haven't decided yet - still have to finish up some Christmas shopping so if I go I'll probably get there for the P4. You?

Bigsmc 12-16-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Haven't decided yet - still have to finish up some Christmas shopping so if I go I'll probably get there for the P4. You?

;) Not sure how early I will get there, but it will be in the first half of the card.

TheSpyder 12-17-2008 11:55 AM

What happen to the one, late scratch?


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