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RollerDoc 08-02-2006 05:57 PM

Race Fans..........I'm Curious
 
Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

dr. fager 08-02-2006 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

1. Secretariat
2. tough....but I'd say no Spectacular Bid comes to mind
3. couldn't tell you
4. 10
5. Silver Charm....that I've seen, The good Dr. Fager in legends and lore

1st_Saturday_in_May 08-02-2006 06:08 PM

1. War Emblem???? I hope you mean War Admiral...

2. I'd say yes.

3. Northern Dancer? That Arabian that 90% of todays horses descend from?

4. 9.64

5. Ghostzapper

Gander 08-02-2006 06:09 PM

1) Secretariat, Spectacular Bid, Skip Away
2) No Skip Away is the best horse to never win a triple crown
3) Storm Cat
4) 10
5) Gander and Butterface (its a close tie)

Scav 08-02-2006 06:12 PM

War Emblem, OH WOW....You must have had him in the Derby.

I am not going to answer 1 or 2 because it takes alot of thought and consideration

BUT

3) Northern Dancer or Raise a Native

4) scale of 1-10, how about 100

5) I can answer this many different ways, but from a FAN perspective it is Zarb's Magic (Arlington legend)

Scav 08-02-2006 06:13 PM

oh
 
and welcome to the board

whorstman 08-02-2006 06:17 PM

Well, I just found my all time horse. never really thought about it but after reading this. Citation passed on my B-day. I read that he won the NJ derby inbetween preak and Belmont? wow. Read this.....

http://espn.go.com/sportscentury/features/00014135.html

ceejay 08-02-2006 06:19 PM

1. Secretariat, Man O'War, Seattle Slew (including the breeding shed)
2. Spectacular Bid
3. I'd say Seattle Slew.
4. 11
5. Secretariat

RollerDoc 08-02-2006 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

Sorry Everyone.....I meant Man O War!!!!! Rookie Mistake :)

BellamyRd. 08-02-2006 06:27 PM

1) Man O' War (best ever)
2) why would you folks say Spectacular Bid (he won 2 of them)
~yes, Alydar
3) Bernardini
4) 7
5) Smokey Stover

dr. fager 08-02-2006 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
1) Man O' War (best ever)
2) why would you folks say Spectacualr Bid (he won 2 on them)
~yes, Alydar
3) Bernardini
4) 7
5) Smokey Stover


LOL, my bad...thought it was triple crown

I'd put Dr. Fager in for 2 then

my miss storm cat 08-02-2006 06:35 PM

1. Citation, Ruffian, Secretariat (.... probably should put Man O War but hey... Ruffian gets my vote).
2. No, he was one of a few...
3. Don't know.
4. 10
5. Present day... Rakti
From the past..... maybe Coaltown, Affectionately or The Bid.

Downthestretch55 08-02-2006 06:46 PM

I'll just answer #2.
Alydar was a better broodmare sire than Affirmed was.
As far as "on the track"...Spectacular Bid.

Danzig 08-02-2006 08:05 PM

best three all time? oh boy... man o war, northern dancer, seattle slew.

best to never win a tc race. i agree about alydar.

best horse ever to breed....well, how far back do you want to go? lexington immediately springs to mind. more modern? northern dancer is a legend for good reason...then there's his son danzig. 188 stakes winners(hence my name on here), highest in the world til another son of northern dancer passed him (sadler's wells) and then danzigs son danehill. but danzig still holds the record in north america.

1-10...well, it looked a bad deal for alex, but he made his recovery look easy!

lastly...favorite horse? ever?? seattle slew barely. too many to choose from!

Damascus '67 08-03-2006 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

1. Secretariat, Man O' War, Spectacular Bid

2. How about Buckpasser

3. Mr. Prospector

4. 10

5. Secretariat

Pedigree Ann 08-03-2006 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RollerDoc
Since I don't want to overstep my bounds here and start a bunch of different threads, perhaps I can ask my initial questions right here:

1. Who do you consider the best 3 horses of all time? My vote goes to 1.) Secretariat, 2.) War Emblem, 3.) Affirmed

2. Would Alydar be considered the Best Horse To Have Never Won a triple crown race?

3. What horse is considered the best horse to ever breed (based on conbined race records of offspring)?

4. On a scale of 1 - 10, 1 means not difficult at all, and 10 means extremely difficult, what do you rank Afleet Alex's recovery at The Preakness?

5. Who is your favorite horse of all time? Mine is Afleet Alex (I know surprise surprise).

5. His Felinity, Cougar II, soon to be installed in the Hall of Fame (and about time!)

4. 8

3. Hoist the Flag - 34% of his offspring were stakes horses.

2. Equipoise? Forego? Seabiscuit didn't start in a Triple Crown race, but these two did. (Forego was fourth in the Derby behind Secretariat.) Are you restricting the choice to TC race starters? Because the field is wide open if you aren't.

1. Kinscem, Ribot, Phar Lap (or did you intend only US horses of the 20th Century?)

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-03-2006 09:56 AM

1. Man O' War, Spectacular Bid, Secretariat
2. Spectacular Bid
3. Northern Dancer, Raise a Native, Bold Ruler, Man O' War, and I am particularly fond of Dynaformer although I don't know where he will rank in the grand scheme of things when it is all said and done.
4. 9.90
5. Afleet Alex, Deep Impact, Barbaro, Bernardini, Smarty Jones, Ouija Board, Rock of Gibralter, Lost in the Fog, Gorella, Megahertz, Charismatic, Funny Cide, Lava Man, Silver Charm

seconditis 08-03-2006 10:02 AM

1. Secretariat
Ruffian
War Admiral

2. Hard to go against Alydar

3. Seattle Slew

4. 9

5. Smarty Jones

Damascus '67 08-03-2006 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay
1. Man O' War, Spectacular Bid, Secretariat
2. Spectacular Bid
3. Northern Dancer, Raise a Native, Bold Ruler, Man O' War, and I am particularly fond of Dynaformer although I don't know where he will rank in the grand scheme of things when it is all said and done.
4. 9.90
5. Afleet Alex, Deep Impact, Barbaro, Bernardini, Smarty Jones, Ouija Board, Rock of Gibralter, Lost in the Fog, Gorella, Megahertz, Charismatic, Funny Cide, Lava Man, Silver Charm

Spectacular Bid won 2 TC races.

kentuckyrosesinmay 08-03-2006 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damascus '67
Spectacular Bid won 2 TC races.

Ah, I missed that...it would have probably been Sham or Alydar. What about Seabiscuit or Cigar, Skip Away, Forego, or Ghostzapper. That is a really hard question to answer.


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