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dalakhani 11-08-2008 09:46 AM

If there is a 9/11 scale attack on US soil in the next 24 months
 
Would it be the fault of the Obama administration's shift in policies?

SCUDSBROTHER 11-08-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Would it be the fault of the Obama administration's shift in policies?

Won't happen. They killed 44 sheep to give him good luck.

King Glorious 11-08-2008 10:21 AM

If you are going to blame Obama then I'm assuming you would also be blaming Bush for the first one right?

I don't think anything is going to happen. I think something might have had McCain or Clinton been elected. Not with Obama though. That part of the world views him different than they would view anyone else that would have been elected as president. I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that it will be a part of their thought process to not embarrass the black man. I've talked to a few Islamic and Arab people and that's the vibe that I've gotten; they feel like Obama is someone that's going to be more sympathetic towards them, even if it's just a little bit. Not easy on them but just a little bit easier to deal with as far as talking and trying to resolve things. One person said to me "we know that Obama is our best chance to get peace over there because when he walks in a room to negotiate with them, they will see someone that looks like them as opposed to the usual white, military man that wants to just go to war with them." He said that basically, they would have seen McCain as another Bush, whom they hate and they would have had a hard time negotiating with Clinton, who's not only white but is also a woman and you know how they feel about women over there.

We'll see what happens but I don't think there will be anything major happening.

somerfrost 11-08-2008 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
If you are going to blame Obama then I'm assuming you would also be blaming Bush for the first one right?

I don't think anything is going to happen. I think something might have had McCain or Clinton been elected. Not with Obama though. That part of the world views him different than they would view anyone else that would have been elected as president. I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that it will be a part of their thought process to not embarrass the black man. I've talked to a few Islamic and Arab people and that's the vibe that I've gotten; they feel like Obama is someone that's going to be more sympathetic towards them, even if it's just a little bit. Not easy on them but just a little bit easier to deal with as far as talking and trying to resolve things. One person said to me "we know that Obama is our best chance to get peace over there because when he walks in a room to negotiate with them, they will see someone that looks like them as opposed to the usual white, military man that wants to just go to war with them." He said that basically, they would have seen McCain as another Bush, whom they hate and they would have had a hard time negotiating with Clinton, who's not only white but is also a woman and you know how they feel about women over there.

We'll see what happens but I don't think there will be anything major happening.



Good points KG, I agree that many folks around the world celebrated Obama's victory...and that's a good thing! It's a harsh world and an attack could come regardless of who is President. I blame Bush for a lot of stuff...9-11 isn't one.

Danzig 11-08-2008 10:52 AM

i also don't believe, and hope, that there will be another 9//11 style attack. we've become much more aware these days....our safety, due partly to geograpy(we are literally an ocean away from many folks who wish us harm) isn't quite so assured in this day and age with travel being easier. we learned that lesson a hard way.
i don't know that it's easy tho to say that a change in leader alone guarantees anything-we're still the united states, and many still wish us ill. by the same token, i think everyone is as sick of bush as we've become, so at this point anything is an improvement.

the change by bush to pre-emptive strikes was a mistake. that doesn't mean sit and wait for a 9/11 attack, but certainly going across borders into syria and pakistan without those govts approval has got to stop.

GBBob 11-08-2008 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost
Good points KG, I agree that many folks around the world celebrated Obama's victory...and that's a good thing! It's a harsh world and an attack could come regardless of who is President. I blame Bush for a lot of stuff...9-11 isn't one.



ditto

but I'm waiting for Timmi to post that he blames Clinton

paisjpq 11-08-2008 11:13 AM

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

MaTH716 11-08-2008 11:23 AM

I personally don't think that there will be another 9-11 style attack. Security is too high at airports. Plus most importantly, people won't sit idle anymore. The days of being hi-jacked to just go to Cuba are over. Passangers know what the end result will be and band together to try to stop the terrorists.

That being said, I really don't think it matters who is in office. These people hate America and what America stands for. Therefore they would try to attack us no matter who the president is, given the opportunity. I believe that eventually there will be another attack, but nothing to the scale and devestation of 9/11.

Coach Pants 11-08-2008 11:26 AM


timmgirvan 11-08-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
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ditto

but I'm waiting for Timmi to post that he blames Clinton

I blame Clintom for alot but not 9-11:eek:

However, I think the honeymoon with Obama will be over relatively shortly, unless he completely 'bends over' to the demands of the enemies of our country.

Antitrust32 11-08-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Would it be the fault of the Obama administration's shift in policies?


if he keeps putting all the effort he can into preventing this (like we have been the last 7 years), then no.

If he decides to lessen "homeland security" then I may be upset eventhough its not like Obama will be happy either.

dalakhani 11-08-2008 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

why do you feel this way? Is it ridiculous to think that there could be another attack? Is it ridiculous to think that the new administration would probably be blamed?

timmgirvan 11-08-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
why do you feel this way? Is it ridiculous to think that there could be another attack? Is it ridiculous to think that the new administration would probably be blamed?

Way too soon to establish blame for an act that hasn't occurred! It's foolish to think there aren't plans in motion now to harm this country and its' citizens, here and abroad. Our initial response will probably be good, as our security infrastructure is secure(needs tweaks) What happens after that is up to the leaders of our country....Then you can blame and debate it!

hi_im_god 11-08-2008 03:54 PM

i'm way ahead of you. i've been working out the math on who's to blame for sarah palin's election in 2012.

it's narrowed down to 2 demographics. humorless conservative's and horny guys. i'll report back when i've finalized my results.

and the answer to your question is no. it isn't obama's fault. it's the jews.

i mean...duh!

timmgirvan 11-08-2008 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
i'm way ahead of you. i've been working out the math on who's to blame for sarah palin's election in 2012.

it's narrowed down to 2 demographics. humorless conservative's and horny guys. i'll report back when i've finalized my results.

and the answer to your question is no. it isn't obama's fault. it's the jews.

i mean...duh!

I see you've been talking to the Pope again!.....we'll probably be ready for your report in 2010....when the new campaigns start up

ateamstupid 11-08-2008 04:13 PM

The only thing I predict if there's another attack is that, just like last time, the people farthest from the actual destruction will be the ones who act the most outraged and hurt.

"It was so sad watching those towers fall ON TV".. "I can't believe they attacked US like that".. "How are WE ever supposed to recover from having to watch that on TV?"

miraja2 11-08-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

I couldn't have said it better myself.
This thread is stupid, and I mean like Sarah Palin stupid.

Coach Pants 11-08-2008 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The only thing I predict if there's another attack is that, just like last time, the people farthest from the actual destruction will be the ones who act the most outraged and hurt.

"It was so sad watching those towers fall ON TV".. "I can't believe they attacked US like that".. "How are WE ever supposed to recover from having to watch that on TV?"

Yes because there wasn't a shortage of New Yorkers wearing NYPD and FDNY hats.

dalakhani 11-08-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I couldn't have said it better myself.
This thread is stupid, and I mean like Sarah Palin stupid.

Yeah, keep telling me about how scholars arent calling the bush admin socialist either.


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