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smuthg 11-05-2008 04:54 PM

Dutrow v. Commentator
 
http://www.drf.com/news/article/99695.html

I love Zito's quote:

"Maybe he didn't look at the Mass Cap the other day," Zito said. "They had a nice rabbit in there against us, and we handled it pretty well. He's bringing some rabbits just for me? I appreciate it. Tell Babe I really appreciate it. That's nice of him."

Linny 11-05-2008 06:34 PM

I'm not sure why the Cigar Mile is not in the plans. It's a NY G1, seems right up Nick's alley. Andy? Any ideas?

blackthroatedwind 11-05-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
I'm not sure why the Cigar Mile is not in the plans. It's a NY G1, seems right up Nick's alley. Andy? Any ideas?

None. I talked to him earlier.....and Commentator never came up.

PPerfectfan 11-05-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg
http://www.drf.com/news/article/99695.html

I love Zito's quote:

"Maybe he didn't look at the Mass Cap the other day," Zito said. "They had a nice rabbit in there against us, and we handled it pretty well. He's bringing some rabbits just for me? I appreciate it. Tell Babe I really appreciate it. That's nice of him."

Man, I freaking Love Nick Zito. U tell him Nick! I have never really followed Commentator, but I hope he kicks butt!! And remember Babe, karma is a b**ch!!!!

CSC 11-06-2008 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
Man, I freaking Love Nick Zito. U tell him Nick! I have never really followed Commentator, but I hope he kicks butt!! And remember Babe, karma is a b**ch!!!!

You can't blame Dutrow for doing what he thinks is the best way to beat Zito.

PPerfectfan 11-06-2008 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
You can't blame Dutrow for doing what he thinks is the best way to beat Zito.

No your right, but I think he is vile and anyone that come back at him like that, goes up higher on my "cool person" meter!:D

slotdirt 11-06-2008 08:19 AM

Where is our resident Zito hater on this one? Oh wait, nevermind, I think he was banned.

the_fat_man 11-06-2008 10:06 AM

The 'villain' here is not Dutrow but DIRT. If I were Dutrow and I knew that a horse like Commentator would have an UNFAIR advantage, I test him early and make him earn the win. In fact, if I were training, I'd test all the need-the-lead-and-have-the-track-carry-them types early and see if they had guts or wilted under pressure. Time to start using races as WORKOUTS.

The problem is the generally accepted notion that DIRT plays fair. We love our front runners here.

CSC 11-06-2008 10:30 AM

Pacemakers have been used in Europe as well as America for as long as there has been racing. From what it sounds like Dutrow is being just his blunt honest self, he could have said he is entering to ensure a honest pace for Arson Squad, if Commentator wasn't running this would basically be a non story.

Scav 11-06-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Pacemakers have been used in Europe as well as America for as long as there has been racing. From what it sounds like Dutrow is being just his blunt honest self, he could have said he is entering to ensure a honest pace for Arson Squad, if Commentator wasn't running this would basically be a non story.

Except Commentator settled last time off speed and finished strong. Different horse then when he did this move the last time

CSC 11-06-2008 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Except Commentator settled last time off speed and finished strong. Different horse then when he did this move the last time

Churchill is one of the fairer dirt tracks in North America, I don't see much value betting Commentator here. Obviously he is the class of the race, however I'm not comfortable saying he is a stalk and pounce horse just yet, one thing I am comfortable in saying if he is if he is left alone on an easy lead he's a very different horse.

letswastemoney 11-06-2008 11:00 AM

Arson Squad is a different horse on dirt. I expect him to win with 2 rabbits dueling for him. If Commentator wins one more time here off the pace, I'll be convinced he can stalk.

alysheba4 11-06-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Where is our resident Zito hater on this one? Oh wait, nevermind, I think he was banned.

.....haw many people have been banned.....?

CSC 11-06-2008 12:37 PM

I'm still relatively new here, but I find it hard to believe anyone would be banned if they were truly constructive in the opinions. If they were banned it is probably for good reasons, not for criticizing a Trainer.

Kasept 11-06-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4
.....haw many people have been banned.....?

Actually, no one really ever gets 'banned'. Those without the ability to interact in polite society are extracted from the membership list. Essentially, they disinvited themselves from participation here. And frankly, it takes a 'special' effort.

slotdirt 11-06-2008 12:44 PM

I mean, I hadn't seen ol' eurobounce in awhile, and this seems as apt a conversation as any for a reappearance.

Antitrust32 11-06-2008 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Actually, no one really ever gets 'banned'. Those without the ability to interact in polite society are extracted from the membership list. Essentially, they disinvited themselves from participation here. And frankly, it takes a 'special' effort.


lol... it must take a special effort or all of us who post in the politics & eso & sports & padlock sections would be banned!

CSC 11-06-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
lol... it must take a special effort or all of us who post in the politics & eso & sports & padlock sections would be banned!

I laughed too...special effort. Classic.

Kasept 11-06-2008 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I mean, I hadn't seen ol' eurobounce in awhile, and this seems as apt a conversation as any for a reappearance.

There won't be one.


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