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eajinabi 11-02-2008 09:40 PM

Zenyatta Vs. Nashobas Key Vs. Rags to Riches
 
Who would win?

blackthroatedwind 11-02-2008 09:42 PM

Go for Wand......in a romp.

letswastemoney 11-02-2008 09:43 PM

Would Rags even like synth?

hrfan 11-03-2008 03:00 AM

zenyatta easy on any surface

letswastemoney 11-03-2008 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hrfan
zenyatta easy on any surface

now wait a second. rags has beaten curlin. no one zenyatta has beaten is as quality as curlin. zenyatta even ducked nashoba's key earlier in the year.

freddymo 11-03-2008 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Wow.

HR has no clue who or what Go for Wand was..

freddymo 11-03-2008 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
Who would win?

Nashoba's key your kidding right that filly is a nice grade 2 runner period

cakes44 11-03-2008 09:52 AM

Nashoba's Key was a synthetic monster though.

freddymo 11-03-2008 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Nashoba's Key was a synthetic monster though.


Yeah the Personal Ensign of poly/cushion track. Please what grade 1 talent did the Monster crush in both her electrifying grade 1 wins?

cakes44 11-03-2008 10:39 AM

Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.

King Glorious 11-03-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.

YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.

cakes44 11-03-2008 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.

That is half of what I'm trying to say here.

Indian Charlie 11-03-2008 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
YOU could outrun Hystericalady on synthetics.

Did You ever even run on synthetic? I think she ran before synthetics came along at any major track.

King Glorious 11-03-2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Did You ever even run on synthetic? I think she ran before synthetics came along at any major track.

Good point. Perhaps I should have said YOU AND I..........but then I think he was before synthetics too.

letswastemoney 11-03-2008 12:23 PM

If it was on synth.....Zenyatta probably would win....NK might win

If it was on dirt....Rags would win

If it was on turf....NK is the only one with experience on turf so she'd probably win

freddymo 11-03-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
Grade 1 talent:

Hystericalady--Grade 1 winner of more than $2 million
Balance--Grade 1 winner of more than $1 million

I'm not saying that Nashoba's Key was a better animal than R2R or Zenyatta here. All I'm saying is she was a major handful on synthetics.

Hystericalady is a super nice filly but clearly not of poly

alysheba4 11-03-2008 02:42 PM

thats what i was thinking, her most impressive victory was on dirt.......

letswastemoney 11-03-2008 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
What's your deal with Zenyatta? Has she beat you out of a big score or something?

No. I think my analysis is reasonable. I believe on dirt, Kentucky Oaks and Belmont wins are more impressive than Apple Blossom versus one good horse.

On synth, Zenyatta would beat her, not because Zenyatta moves up, but because everyone else seems to move down on those surfaces. But nothing is for certain.


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