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Kasept 10-14-2008 05:46 AM

10/25 (BC): Turf; Mile; Turf Sprint (Final)
 
2nd (10:50) Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint

About 6 1/2 Furlongs (Downhill turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Heros Reward Castellano J J 126 L
2 Fleeting Spirit (IRE) Murtagh J P 120 L
3 True to Tradition Carmouche K 126 L
4 Only Answer (GB) Peslier O 123
5 Salute the Count Coa E M 126 L
6 Storm Treasure Bridgmohan S X 126 L
7 Rouse the Cat Prado E S 126 L
8 Diabolical Dettori L 126 L
9 Desert Code Migliore R 126 L
10 California Flag Talamo J 126 L
11 Idiot Proof Gomez G K 126 L
12 One Union Espinoza V 126 L
13 Get Funky Valdivia J Jr 126 L
14 Mr. Nightlinger Theriot H J II 126 L



4th (12:15) Breeders' Cup Mile (G1)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $2,000,000

1 Shakis (IRE) Garcia Alan 126 L
2 Kip Deville Velasquez C 126 L
3 Precious Kitten Bejarano R 123 L
4 Goldikova (IRE) Peslier O 119
5 Daytona (IRE) Solis A 126 L
6 Awesome Gem Baze T C 126 L
7 U S Ranger Murtagh J P 126 L
8 Bold Chieftain Baze R A 126 L
9 War Monger Desormeaux K J 126 L
10 Thorn Song Albarado R J 126 L
11 Whatsthescript (IRE) Gomez G K 126 L


8th (3:00) Emirates Airlines Breeders' Cup Turf (G1)

1 1/2 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $3,000,000

1 Better Talk Now Dominguez R A 126 L
2 Red Rocks (IRE) Dettori L 126 L
3 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 126 L
4 Soldier of Fortune (IRE) Murtagh J P 126
5 Winchester Smullen P J 121 L
6 Dancing Forever Douglas R R 126 L
7 Red Rock Canyon (IRE) O'Donoghue Colm 126
8 Spring House Velazquez J R 126 L
9 Conduit (IRE) Moore R L 121
10 Out of Control (BRZ) Gomez G K 126 L
11 Eagle Mountain (GB) Shea K 126

lemoncrush 10-14-2008 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Mile:

Einstein*
Tybalt
Hyperbaric
Proudinsky*
War Wonger*

War Wonger? Ridden by Elmer Fudd??
:p

cakes44 10-14-2008 11:31 AM

What has Winchester done since the Secretariat?

Antitrust32 10-14-2008 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf Sprint:

Mr. Nightlinger
Idiot Proof
Get Funky
Just Rushing
Wollemi Pine
Heros Reward
Salute the Count
Natural Seven
Kingship
California Flag
One Union
Smart Enough
True to Tradition
Lightmyfirebaby*
Wake Up Maggie
Ten Meropa


Wow, one of those horses will be a Breeders Cup winner in a few weeks. :zz:

my miss storm cat 10-14-2008 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf:
Archipenko*

Slight setback, out of the Champion Stakes, on to Hong Kong and then Dubai.

my miss storm cat 10-14-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Mile:
Good Ba Ba

Staying put in HK...

brockguy 10-14-2008 05:23 PM

Winchester is on course for the Turf I believe, hasnt raced since Arlington...

smuthg 10-14-2008 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf:
Archipenko*

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Slight setback, out of the Champion Stakes, on to Hong Kong and then Dubai.

damn it! I love this guy... got a terrible trip in the million and thought he would be perfect for this race.

brockguy 10-14-2008 06:23 PM

US Ranger is possible for Coolmore and he is almost as bad as Antonius Pius

my miss storm cat 10-15-2008 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
US Ranger is possible for Coolmore and he is almost as bad as Antonius Pius

I loved him! :D

Conduit to the Turf, Fleeting Spirit to the Turf Sprint...

my miss storm cat 10-15-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
Originally Posted by Kasept
Turf:
Archipenko*



damn it! I love this guy... got a terrible trip in the million and thought he would be perfect for this race.

According to what I've read, he's doing well so at least there's that. :)

Handicappy 10-15-2008 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Mile:

Lord Admiral - C. O'Brien
Kip Deville – Dutrow
Goldikova - Head (1)
Whatsthescript – Sadler
Precious Kitten – Frankel
Thorn Song – Romans
Bold Chieftain – Morey
War Monger – Mott
Daytona – Hendricks
Shakis – McLaughlin
Raven’s Pass – Gosden (1)
US Ranger - O'Brien
Ventura - Frankel (2)
Awesome Gem (2)

I really think a key factor to consider is that Kiaran actually went to Sheik Hamdan and encouraged him to supplement. He is no fool around a horses' potential. Shakis is really moving well at the moment and will be running his last race before a wonderful retirement at Shadwell. If he can get a fairly firm turf track, he'll be coming in the stretch.

hockey2315 10-15-2008 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handicappy
I really think a key factor to consider is that Kiaran actually went to Sheik Hamdan and encouraged him to supplement. He is no fool around a horses' potential. Shakis is really moving well at the moment and will be running his last race before a wonderful retirement at Shadwell. If he can get a fairly firm turf track, he'll be coming in the stretch.

Are you sure about this? . . Personally I was completely unimpressed by his last two. . .

Handicappy 10-15-2008 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
Are you sure about this? . . Personally I was completely unimpressed by his last two. . .

Unimpressed! He won the BBaruck with a strong turn of foot blowing by the field in the stretch. He was coming against brown and Proudinski on a very soft surface he usually hates at Monmouth. But even if you weren't impressed. Don't dismiss him outright. Mclaughlin seldom makes bad decisions about his horses. He's entered 4 horses in the past two years in the Breeders Cup and won two. And he would have won a third if Henny didn't spin his wheels at Churchill after he gave the rest of the horses their usual 1/2 length advantage. And a forth if Monmouth's Turf course wasn't a bog for Lear's Princess. He doesn't run them if he doesn't think they can win. And Shakis is fit and ready to run. Worth a look that's for sure.

hockey2315 10-15-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Handicappy
Unimpressed! He won the BBaruck with a strong turn of foot blowing by the field in the stretch. He was coming against brown and Proudinski on a very soft surface he usually hates at Monmouth. But even if you weren't impressed. Don't dismiss him outright. Mclaughlin seldom makes bad decisions about his horses. He's entered 4 horses in the past two years in the Breeders Cup and won two. And he would have won a third if Henny didn't spin his wheels at Churchill after he gave the rest of the horses their usual 1/2 length advantage. And a forth if Monmouth's Turf course wasn't a bog for Lear's Princess. He doesn't run them if he doesn't think they can win. And Shakis is fit and ready to run. Worth a look that's for sure.

Umm he also ran at Keeneland. . . His last two were the Monmouth Stakes - where he had no excuse in the stretch - and the Shadwell Turf Mile - I can't remember his performance there but it wasn't great. AND I'm pretty sure he ran there because of the owners - so KMc doesn't always choose his horse's spots. His Baruch was nice - but also at his favorite track and not at a mile. Shakis will almost certainly be an underlay. . .

Hoss is right about the rest of that garbage. . .

Kasept 10-15-2008 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
and the Shadwell Turf Mile - I can't remember his performance there but it wasn't great. AND I'm pretty sure he ran there because of the owners - so KMc doesn't always choose his horse's spots. .

He just missed behind Thorn Song.

hockey2315 10-15-2008 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
He just missed behind Thorn Song.

Thanks Steve. . . but I'm still not crazy about his chances. . . There will be better horses in the BC than Thorn Song.

Handicappy 10-15-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Are you serious with most of this? First off, Lear's Princess ran in the Distaff last year, not on the grass. Henny hughes would have won the sprint in '06? That's a pretty far stretch I think.

I meant the dirt course. And, a far stretch for Henny? Did you see that horse that year? He dominated every field he was in. Went off as the favorite in the Breeder's Cup. He lost the race on the break. But my point was he wasn't running the horse without having a good sense of his capability. He enters to win. I don't think he would go out on a limb with Shiek unless he had a very good idea that Shakis was rounding into form.


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