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rkinnin 10-07-2008 10:40 AM

Breeders Cup Upside
 
I thought that it about time we all focus on the upsides for the Breeders Cup. Maybe its too early maybe not.

My first upside ....is the weather. Its highly doubtful that it is going to "down pour" like Monmouth last year. The downside, for me, is that I did do very well with the sloppy and yelding tracks.

Serious or less Serious is fine with me...I leave it to each of you to sort out which may be good upsides or not.

MaTH716 10-07-2008 10:54 AM

There is not enough upside in the world to change the biggest downside that there is. The Synthetic Pro Ride Surface.

By the way, while it was pouring in Jersey last year. Wasn't a large section of California on fire?

Cannon Shell 10-07-2008 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
There is not enough upside in the world to change the biggest downside that there is. The Synthetic Pro Ride Surface.

By the way, while it was pouring in Jersey last year. Wasn't a large section of California on fire?

Proride is fire proof

Linny 10-07-2008 11:27 AM

They generally don't have to worry about rain for the BC at Santa Anita because the Cup is run during "fire season." The monsoon usually starts around Christmas, followed by "mud season" when the canyons collapse because the fires killed all the trees. If the frogs and locusts show up, I recommend leaving...
Last time I was in Cali for the Cup, the Malibu fires were so bad I could see the smoke from Santa Barbara when I took a midweek overnight trip.

hoovesupsideyourhead 10-07-2008 12:14 PM

the upside..i will not be there
the downside ..2 days instead of 1 and the pro-ride

Payson Dave 10-07-2008 12:34 PM

The upside for me is I won't be at all concerned with losing much money on the BC races this year or next...

Bigsmc 10-07-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
The upside for me is I won't be at all concerned with losing much money on the BC races this year or next...

Same for me.

Not that the BC cares....

ShadowRoll 10-07-2008 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkinnin
I thought that it about time we all focus on the upsides for the Breeders Cup. Maybe its too early maybe not.

My first upside ....is the weather. Its highly doubtful that it is going to "down pour" like Monmouth last year. The downside, for me, is that I did do very well with the sloppy and yelding tracks.

Serious or less Serious is fine with me...I leave it to each of you to sort out which may be good upsides or not.

I'm sticking to my vow to not bet the Breeders Cup in protest of the creation of b.s. races to puff up the two-day schedule in order to make more money, and in protest of "ladies day," which forces you to buy tickets for both days if you want to see the best fillies and mares as well as the best colts and horses, and in protest of the apparent intent to never run it anywhere, in the future, other than Santa Anita, Belmont and, maybe CD.

Incidentally, Jay Cronley also claimed, in his most recent article, that the mud was kind to him last year at Monmouth: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=3629870

Indian Charlie 10-07-2008 02:04 PM

The upside is that within just a few short weeks, it will be over.

2MinsToPost 10-07-2008 02:40 PM

The past couple of years I have gambled more on Breeders Cup day then any other day of the year. Not this year. I have averaged pushing close to $300 thru the windows on this day, this year I doubt I will push $100. One real simple reason, the surface.

Not too mention I hate the fact they have it split over two days.

odbaxter 10-07-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Proride is fire proof

Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!

Round Pen 10-07-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by odbaxter
Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!

Finally somebody that makes a little since.

Unstable 10-07-2008 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
I'm sticking to my vow to not bet the Breeders Cup in protest of the creation of b.s. races to puff up the two-day schedule in order to make more money, and in protest of "ladies day," which forces you to buy tickets for both days if you want to see the best fillies and mares as well as the best colts and horses, and in protest of the apparent intent to never run it anywhere, in the future, other than Santa Anita, Belmont and, maybe CD.

Yes, the Breeders' Cup is trying to make more money...

Yes, the two-day schedule is puffed up, currently...

I look at it this way: they're trying to expand their business and not doing it very smoothly. I know there will be some dilution of the product, but maybe in a few years we'll wonder what all the fuss was about (if they are successful).

I still haven't figured out the Cushion Track, or PolyTrack, or Tapeta, let alone the Pro-Ride. But I'm still going to bet it, because there are opportunities to bet good horses at long odds.

Churchill Downs has the Oaks on Friday and the Derby on Saturday. Breeders' Cup is trying to keep the same format in an expanded mode. I think Friday (Ladies' Day) will probably be less crazy, so I may go that day, and bet online on Saturday. Even though I live in Southern California and could go both days without too much problem (except for my dislike of crowds).

Unstable 10-07-2008 05:33 PM

Upside: horse racing... you get to bet on it.... :D

Downside: the crowds... :mad: but that means the payouts are bigger... :D (more upside)

2Hot4TV 10-07-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odbaxter
Bahahahaha!

The upside is, as always, with huge numbers of fairweather fans and curious onlookers betting into the pools there will be tremendous value to be had. Especially if the more serious students of the game can find an edge with this new "fireproof" surface.

Bahahahaha!

Maybe we have.:$: :$: :$:

rkinnin 10-07-2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ShadowRoll
Incidentally, Jay Cronley also claimed, in his most recent article, that the mud was kind to him last year at Monmouth: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...jay&id=3629870

As you saw in the original post....it was very kind to me too.

herkhorse 10-07-2008 09:29 PM

Upside: Not working on Saturday and the wife and kids will be gone for the day :)

Downside: Herkimer OTB is closing for good on Oct. 26th :mad:

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-07-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Upside: Not working on Saturday and the wife and kids will be gone for the day :)

Downside: Herkimer OTB is closing for good on Oct. 26th :mad:

No ****!!!!!!!!!

The Fort Plain branch can't be too far away. :mad:

herkhorse 10-07-2008 09:39 PM

Yep, it's true. Hard to believe, I may even miss that dump. Guess I'll have to drive to McGills and visit Heather :{>: :{>:

ateamstupid 10-07-2008 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Finally somebody that makes a little since.

:zz:


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