St. Leger - Top Lock?
 

Hi guys......

I'm trying to keep tabs on all Nayef offspring, so I was disappointed to hear that Top Lock had finished 2nd yet again in a group stakes. Was it a good race for him, enough to send him on to the St. Leger as a contender? I'd love to see him win one of these one day.....

Also, have there been any promising Nayef 2 year olds to keep an eye on? It seems like he might have a decent colt in Nafaath, who's running at Cork tomorrow, but haven't heard of anyone else. I'd love to see Nayef solidify his very good first crop with some promising babies......

Lastly - does Lady Marian have a shot in the Prix de la Nonette tomorrow? She seems like she's really coming into her own, though I'm sure she'll be meeting better than she has been.

Thanks so much!

I only really saw the race in passing, but the winner looked like he just pulled more and more out and Top Lock, though he looked very threatening 2f out, just ran out of a bit of steam.. He is still in the Leger with a decent shout - it looks to be very open this year, but I think Michael Stoute will get his elusive first Leger win with Conduit..

Nafaath was just beaten this afternoon in Cork. He came third beaten two heads.. It could have been a decent enough maiden (as an aside, the Irish juveniles are sensational this year - Arazan was unreal yesterday and Bushranger who wouldnt be the best Irish juvi here won the G1 in france today!)
and Lady Marian won , I have a soft spot for German Breds so delighted she won..

Thanks, Brockguy!

I was disappointed to hear that Nafaath lost, but he seems like a decent sort anyway.

Did you see Lady Marian's race? I was so excited that she won this morning, but then I heard that the favorite encountered some trouble and might have won without it. I hope that's not the case here, but even so......Lady Marian is definitely improving. She's an interesting filly to follow the remainder of this year and into next.

Top Lock will run next year, so I'm just going to hope that he continues to run well. Eventually he'll win a stakes and I certainly can't complain with his efforts. He always gives it a good try.

Stupid question but I'm not awake yet... was Top Lock in the German Derby?

I know I've heard the name but not sure where.

Glad to hear your girl won today, Betsy. :tro:

yeah i think he was 3rd in it.

Lady Marian was 2nd in the German Oaks as well!

Thanks, Brock.

Yes, he was - finished 3rd. One of these days, he'll get there!

Thanks, My Miss Storm Cat! I am thoroughly enjoying following Nayef's offspring. I've always liked European racing, but I've only occasionally had a favorite horse do well. I had completely forgotten about Nayef, to be honest, and I'm rather ashamed as I just adored him as a racehorse. I'm so happy that he's gotten off to such a good start at stud.

The QEII looks to be a corker of a race if HenrytheNavigator goes, with Tamayuz and Ravens Pass.....

Just one more question - hope you don't mind! Have you heard anything about Spacious? I heard she was pointing for a fall campaign.......I'm hoping she's improved since the Coronation. That was disappointing for me, but since the winner has gone on to take the Yorkshire Oaks, it can't have been too bad a race for her.

Thanks!

I don't really follow her (too busy checking on my Hong Kong boys and assorted third-rate types :D ) but looked around a little and found this.....

Here's hoping!


Leopardstown 6 September 2008
2:40 COOLMORE FUSAICHI PEGASUS MATRON STAKES (GROUP 1) (FILLIES & MARES) (3yo+) Winner £ 1m


No. Form Horse Trainer RTF % Wgt Jockey
0 0433-4 Arch Swing 105 John M Oxx 4 9-3 126 68 — 0-6
0 201501 Baharah 43 G A Butler 4 9-3 126 113 — 2-5
0 1-0312 Cheyenne Star 36 Ms F M Crowley 5 9-3 123 95 — 4-9
0 982316 Dimenticata 41 Kevin Prendergast 4 9-3 116 109 — 2-6
0 26-190 Dollar Chick 22 Noel Meade 4 9-3 96 91 — 0-1
0 -52397 Finsceal Beo 59 J S Bolger 4 9-3 131 122 — 3-8
0 -11234 Heaven Sent 35 Sir Michael Stoute 5 9-3 126 122 — 3-11
0 1-2219 Lady Gloria 59 J G Given 4 9-3 117 112 — 2-13
0 005468 Majestic Roi 35 M R Channon 4 9-3 124 111 — 1-6
0 872650 Mooretown Lady 70 H Rogers 5 9-3 105 97 — 1-12
0 31-115 Sabana Perdida 34 A De Royer-Dupre 5 9-3 125 119 — 6-14
0 355022 She´s Our Mark 24 Patrick J Flynn 4 9-3 124 84 — 2-6
0 721246 Age Of Chivalry 20 John M Oxx 3 8-12 119 112 — 0-0
0 113341 Carribean Sunset 20 D K Weld 3 8-12 126 119 — 2-6
0 1-2311 Halfway To Heaven 35 A P O´Brien 3 8-12 124 121 — 1-2
0 -90084 Kitty Matcham 20 A P O´Brien 3 8-12 111 104 — 0-3
0 1221- Listen 343 A P O´Brien 3 8-12 126 122 — 1-1
0 615121 Lush Lashes 15 J S Bolger 3 8-12 132 129 — 1-3
0 33-228 Mad About You 55 D K Weld 3 8-12 125 118 — 0-2
0 057614 Nahoodh 34 M Johnston 3 8-12 127 126 — 1-5
0 767514 Psalm 24 A P O´Brien 3 8-12 116 115 — 0-2
0 13-335 Saoirse Abu 104 J S Bolger 3 8-12 122 115 — 0-3
0 11-24 Spacious 78 J R Fanshawe 3 8-12 123 118 — 1-3
0 12d8-21 Visit 36 Sir Michael Stoute 3 8-12 119 105 — 0-1
0 21218- You´resothrilling 380 A P O´Brien 3 8-12 - - — 0-0

Ooh - thanks for posting that! I'll be on vacation and away from the computer, but if Spacious runs, I will be crossing my fingers!

Spacious was very disappointing in the coronation and no one quite knows why. Her trainer, James Fanshawe has had a terrible season by his standards and things don't seem to be improving for him. So with his current form (although he has had a couple of winners of late, but also many disappointments) it would be hard to see them risk such a good filly. That's just the way I see it.

It's been a tough year for many trainers this year who you would usually expect to have a few decent winners. James Fanshawe, John Dunlop and Barry Hills have all had dreadful seasons by their usual high standard.

I read on the Racing Post website that Fanshawe has replaced Jaime Spencer on Spacious with Robert Winston. I'm not familiar with Winston - is he a good choice for Spacious?

Thanks!

Another piece incase you're interested...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/r...ut-910583.html

I can't really answer your question... I just have a soft-spot for the jockeys who have troubles (alcoholism) and who are banned for long periods of time (I won't get into the fairness / unfairness of it, but he did serve a very long suspension).

I think he'll do just fine. :)

There are many jockeys Id pick ahead of Spencer - Winston isnt one of them though....

Powerscourt / Antonius Pius flashbacks aside, I agree.

Winston is perfectly competent though... isn't he?

I think so anyway.

He's been through a lot. I just feel sorry for him.

Thanks for the article, Miss Storm Cat! I don't know much about Winston - I'm just hoping Spacious comes back to her old form.

Full Toss won today and pretty easily, too. I don't know how good of a race that was, but he's certainly got a good pedigree and he's owned by the Queen!

:)

Friday September 12 2008
Doncaster 15:50

Frank Whittle Partnership Conditions Stakes (str)£25000.00 added, 3yo only, 1m, Class 2, £15578.00 penalty 5 runnersGoing: Straight: Good to Soft-Soft in plcs; Round: Soft-Good to Soft in plcs.


Colours: Show Hide 13:35 14:05 14:40 15:15 15:50 16:25 16:55 17:25
No. Form Horse Age Wt Trainer Jockey OR NagMe Bet
1 (2) 15 Fanjura (IRE) 120 3 9-0 J Noseda J Murtagh 102 SP SP SP
2 (3) 4-12504 Moyenne Corniche 41 3 9-0 G Wragg A Munro 105 SP SP SP
3 (4) 12-50 Alexander Castle (USA) 124 3 8-11 K A Ryan N Callan 104 SP SP SP
4 (5) 3-42727 Alexandros 27 3 8-11 Saeed bin Suroor L Dettori 108 SP SP SP
5 (1) 11-24 Spacious 84 3 8-6 J R Fanshawe R Winston 112 SP SP SP


Betting Forecast: 5/6 Spacious, 3/1 Alexandros, 7/1 Alexander Castle (USA), 10/1 Fanjura (IRE), 10/1 Moyenne Corniche

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Saturday September 13 2008
Doncaster 15:10

Ladbrokes St Leger Stakes (Group 1)£500000.00 added, 3yo only, 1m 7f, Class 1 18 runnersGoing: Straight: Good to Soft-Soft in plcs; Round: Soft-Good to Soft in plcs.

4163D6 Alessandro Volta 61 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 118 SP SP SP
530160 Bashkirov 61 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 113 SP SP SP
31-3121 Conduit (IRE) 46 3 9-0 Sir Michael Stoute 112 SP SP SP
21-2144 Doctor Fremantle 61 3 9-0 Sir Michael Stoute 116 SP SP SP
121564 Enroller (IRE) 32 3 9-0 W R Muir D O'Donohoe 103 SP SP SP
10-201 Frozen Fire (GER) 76 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 122 SP SP SP
05-4410 Hindu Kush (IRE) 76 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 108 SP SP SP
351445 King Of Westphalia (USA) 27 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 94 SP SP SP
0-53030 Maidstone Mixture (FR) 98 3 9-0 Paul Murphy - SP SP SP
244-321 New Zealand (IRE) 14 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 94 SP SP SP
4-61622 Savarain 45 3 9-0 L M Cumani 104 SP SP SP
143332 Top Lock 21 3 9-0 A M Balding Martin Dwyer 110 SP SP SP
6-2412 Warringah 80 3 9-0 Sir Michael Stoute R Mullen 93 SP SP SP
4-22502 Washington Irving (IRE) 27 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 114 SP SP SP
01-24 Whistledownwind 115 3 9-0 J Noseda G Mosse 104 SP SP SP
64-30 William Hogarth 61 3 9-0 A P O'Brien 88 SP SP SP
1-21 Look Here 99 3 8-11 R M Beckett E Ahern 119 SP SP SP
11 Unsung Heroine (IRE) 36 3 8-11 T Stack - SP SP SP

RP...

Spacious set for Friday comeback

Racing Post staff


SPACIOUS, runner-up in the 1,000 Guineas earlier this year, makes her long-awaited return in Friday's Frank Whittle Partnership Conditions Stakes at Doncaster.

The James Fanshawe-trained filly won the May Hill at the St Leger meeting last year before just going down by half a length to Natagora in the NewmarketClassic.

Spacious then went on to finish fourth in the Coronation Stakes at Royal Ascot but the daughter of Nayef has been off the track since that run in June as connections gave her time to get over her early-season exertions.

She is reportedlyfiring again now and will have a new partner as Robert Winston takes over from Jamie Spencer in the one-mile heat.

"She's in good form and has been pleasing us in her work, but she has been off a while now," said Chris Richardson, managing director of owners the Cheveley Park Stud.

"She's telling us she's ready to go again now and we're looking forward to it.

"It will be interesting to see how she acts on the ground at Doncaster."

Spacious will be having just the fifth run of her career and Richardson is hoping she will be able to tackle next month's Kingdom of Bahrain Sun Chariot Stakes at Newmarket before gearing up for a four-year-old campaign.

"The Sun Chariot is an option for her if all goes well on Friday, and that could be her last run before we put her away for the year," he added.

"She's certainly got the form, but we just gave her a break as she had been on the go for a long time prepping for the Guineas.

"She's a strong-framed filly and she continues to mature and develop as she gets older so hopefully there is more to come next year."

Spacious faces just four rivals on Town Moor, Godolphin's Alexandros, Fanjura, Moyenne Corniche and Alexander Castle, who has been off the track since his run in the French 2000 Guineas in May.

Thanks for posting, MMSC! I'm crossing my fingers that Spacious does well.

Anyone know what the odds are of Tamayuz being pointed for the BC Mile? I read that Freddie Head is pointing Goldlika (sorry, I'm sure I've spelled her name wrong) to the Mile and that would be a great disappointment to me. Thanks! Does he look to still be in good form in advance of the QEII?

Goldikova has a few options as well, she could point to the mile or the filly and mare turf so its still quite open. I heard she may even go for the 7f G1 the day before the Arc. Tamayuz has the QEII as his next race and the BC Mile would seem like the logical place to send him if they wanted to race him once more this year,.. He is currently 2nd fav at 5-1 for the Mile with bookies over here..

RP.....

Top Lock and Balthazaar's Gift top Tattersalls Autumn Horses in Training Sale

Bloodstock World staff


GROUP performers Top Lock and Balthazaar's Gift (oooh, I'll take him! :D :) )are late additions to the Tattersalls Autumn Horses in Training Sale, which is set for October 27 – 30.

Top Lock, who owns a Timeform rating of 113, will be offered as lot 1053 from Park House Stables in place of the withdrawn Wigram's Turn. The son of Nayef won his debut over 1m3f in April before finishing third in the Deutsches Derby and second in the Great Voltigeur Stakes at Goodwood.

Taking the place of Kestrel Cross as lot 1060 is Bedford Lodge Stables' classy sprinter Balthazaar's Gift, who owns a victory at Group 2 level to his name. The son of Xaar has earned nearly £300,000 in win and place prize-money and is rated 112 by Timeform.

The full catalogue can be viewed at tattersalls.com.