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Kasept 08-22-2008 05:44 AM

8/22: Saratoga (Personal Ensign)
 
Had yet another day where the handicapping found winners, a productive exacta and OK tri, but overall results were well south of standards. $130.00 tri in the third with Mickeless ($36.20) seemed 'short', but the Trouble Maker-Lady Carlock exacta in the listed stakes 7th ($63.50) was 'long'. With big weekend of racing upon us, looking to focus. Carryover approaches $50k Friday with the Gr. I Personal Ensign the feature to kick off the stakes-heavy festivities. Hope you did OK Thursday..


SARATOGA RACE COURSE


PRE-SCRATCHES


1st: CLM, 3yo, 9f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 Jumponthebandwagon 3-1
Next Best: #1 Globalization 2-1
Best Value: #3 Yankee Chief 8-1
Exotics Add: #4 High Brass 7-2


2nd: MSW, 2yo-F, 8.5f-T (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #6 Dream Express 5-1
Best Value: #3 Skip Away Belle 6-1
Next Best: #1e Pletcher entry 3-1
Exotics Add: #9 Banker's Choice 4-1


3rd: CLM, F&M-3+, 7f (P3, DD)

Best Value: #4 Mutakaway 3-1
Most Likely: #6 Tzipi 9-5
Next Best: #1e Contessa entry 7-2


4th: MSW, F&M-3+, 5,5f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Cocktail Attire 2-1
Next Best: #9 Onoitsmymotherinlaw 7-2
Best Value: #4 Elusive Moment 8-1
Super Add: #6 Artistic Talent 8-1


5th: MDN CLM, 3+, 7f (P6, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Sophie's Splinter 7-2
Next Best: #10 Captain Sword 2-1
Best Value: #9 Rock Key 8-1
Super Add: #4 Slick Willie 4-1


<$50 P4 Play:

2: 1-3-6-9
3: 4-6
4: 1-9
5: 3-9-10

4x2x2x3 = $48


6th: NYB-OC/C, F&M-3+, 6.5f (G/S, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #5 Critical Cathy 3-1
Best Value: #10 Smokin Sarah 9-2
Next Best: #7 Blue Devil Bel 6-1
Super Add: #1 Greg's Lassy 5-1.


7th: CLM/N3L, 3+, 8.5f-IT (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Mogul Man 7-5
Next Best: #10 Fitness 5-2
Best Value: #6 Bright Illusion 10-1
Super Add: (AE) #11 The Cuban Hawk 4-1 (Sub #7 Academy Royale 30-1)


8th: ALW-OC/C, F&M-3+, 9.5f-T (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #2 Viva La Flag 3-1
Best Value: #6 Palm Princess 12-1
Next Best: #4 Caprice 5-2
Super Add: #7 Goat Cheese 6-1


9th: 61st Personal Ensign (Gr. I), F&M-3+, 10f (DD)

Most Likely: #1 (POE) Ginger Punch 4-5
Next Best: #5 Unbridled Belle 9-5
Best Value: #3 Lemon Drop Mom 12-1


10th: ALW/N1X, 3+, 11f-IT (Super)

Most Likely: #3 Constabulary 6-1
Best Value: #9 My Man Lars 6-1
Next Best: #6 Good Request 9-2
Super Add: #5 C Street 3-1


<$200 P6 Play:

5: 3-9-10
6: 5-10
7: 3
8: 2-4-6-7
9: 1-5
10: 3-9

3x2x1x4x2x2 = 96 x $2 = $192


<$75 P4 Play:

7: 3-10
8: 2-4-6-7
9: 1-5
10: 3-5-6-9

2x4x2x4 = $64


Good luck!
Steve

MISTERGEE 08-22-2008 06:28 AM

hey steve in the 4th I think you should be 1-9-4-6, nice to see you yesterday, my group at the track missed the $100k super in a photo for 4th, and no we did not have the tri. we had to eat some extra q sandwiches to try to forget

CSC 08-22-2008 09:41 AM

High Brass in the 1st race, Globalization of 07 would drown these however he is not the same horse he once was, he wouldn't be a surprise as the lone speed favorite but I'll take a chance High Brass is the now horse to be on.

docicu3 08-22-2008 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
High Brass in the 1st race, Globalization of 07 would drown these however he is not the same horse he once was, he wouldn't be a surprise as the lone speed favorite but I'll take a chance High Brass is the now horse to be on.


Ramon couldn't have ruined the #2 in the first any worse if he planned it. He really has fallen off from a year ago..

CSC 08-22-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
Ramon couldn't have ruined the #2 in the first any worse if he planned it. He really has fallen off from a year ago..

He's not as good as consistent as last year, but he's still a jockey that can come up with a good result. I can't remember what the horse's name was but he got an overlooked Weaver horse to win a turf race earlier in the meet at a very nice price over a Shug horse. You always remember the one's that work out to balance out the dissapointments.

Knife and Fork in the 5th race might be dangerous for Contessa, who knows but he's 9-1. May be work a couple of dollars.

smuthg 08-22-2008 03:52 PM

bombs away in the 7th... wow!

CSC 08-22-2008 03:59 PM

I like Lookalike in the 8th especially if she runs back to her last race at Keeneland, maybe one more bomb today.

infield_line 08-22-2008 04:40 PM

Wow... I don't mind losing $10 to see that race..
 
I bet against Ginger Punch and did not use the 3, but what heart...

well done......

:)

ateamstupid 08-22-2008 04:43 PM

EDIT: Carries to anyone but the 1,3,4,5,6. If freaking Ginger Punch hadn't gotten the whisker in front at the wire, we'd have a double-carry for sure.

CSC 08-22-2008 04:46 PM

Ginger Punch has made a fan out of me, she's all a racehorse should be. Exceptional effort, she never looked like a winner today but she got the job done again.

Gauchos0522 08-22-2008 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
Ginger Punch has made a fan out of me, she's all a racehorse should be. Exceptional effort, she never looked like a winner today but she got the job done again.

She's got alot of heart but I hope she keeps on winning these races because I am going to be betting against her big time if she goes to the BC cause her figs show she's really not that fast. She has certaintly taken the place of Ashado in my bet against list except she has worked herself out of some bad situations unlike Ashado who got races delivered to her on a platter.

ateamstupid 08-22-2008 05:13 PM

A nose away from a $200,000+ carryover into Travers Day. I'm sure the NYRA people are thrilled.

CSC 08-22-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gauchos0522
She's got alot of heart but I hope she keeps on winning these races because I am going to be betting against her big time if she goes to the BC cause her figs show she's really not that fast. She has certaintly taken the place of Ashado in my bet against list except she has worked herself out of some bad situations unlike Ashado who got races delivered to her on a platter.

I hear you, she's not flashy and perhaps she is not as fast as Zenyatta or Hystericalady. But from a fan's point of view I give her all the respect in the world when you at some of the close finishes she has overcome in her career. Either she is the luckiest I think 6 time grade 1 winner horseracing has ever seen or she is just plain good. I'm not debating anyone who wants to bet against her, I do understand the rationale. But her record speaks for itself. By the way if there was a race with these 3 horses, you have to wonder if she would be favored, certainly Zenyatta would take more money, she might not even be second choice. Crazy huh?

Rudeboyelvis 08-22-2008 05:57 PM

She sure looked like she wanted no part of racing this afternoon - washy, (albeit they all were a little hot) aloof in the post parade, and hesitant to go to post. You could tell by the way Bejarano drew her back at the break that she wasn't the same horse he's used to. The fact that she nosed one out in as Grade 1 speaks to her heart. Hopefully we'll get second choice money in the BC from this :$: :$:

Gauchos0522 08-22-2008 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
I hear you, she's not flashy and perhaps she is not as fast as Zenyatta or Hystericalady. But from a fan's point of view I give her all the respect in the world when you at some of the close finishes she has overcome in her career. Either she is the luckiest I think 6 time grade 1 winner horseracing has ever seen or she is just plain good. I'm not debating anyone who wants to bet against her, I do understand the rationale. But her record speaks for itself. By the way if there was a race with these 3 horses, you have to wonder if she would be favored, certainly Zenyatta would take more money, she might not even be second choice. Crazy huh?

I agree completely and today she is a very good distaffer good enough to gut out 6 grade 1 wins including the Distaff last year. It just frustrates me time and time again when she gets bet like she does in many of her spots like she is a virtual cinch and she beats me cause of her guts. I think it is pretty cool when she displays the heart that she did today, but it certaintly doesn't help my bankroll at all. All in all a cool mare though.


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