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Thunder Gulch 08-13-2008 10:54 AM

Jackson challenges Big Brown owners
 
http://news.bloodhorse.com/article/46567.htm

And Iavarone fires right back. This is probably going to end up going nowhere, but at least the two camps are recognizing that the public wants to see it.

GPK 08-13-2008 11:00 AM

When told of the offer, Mike Iavarone, co-president of IEAH Stables, replied, “I have a better offer. We’ll donate $250,000 to various charities if Curlin meets us in the Breeders’ Cup. These are the things we do anyway. We strongly feel that championships should be decided at the Breeders’ Cup and that in order to give both horses the proper time to prepare for each other, we believe the race we meet in should be on racing’s biggest stage. It also would allow horses from Europe an opportunity to race against us and prove who the best horse in the world is. You’re not going to prove it in a four-horse field in the Woodward. You’re going to prove it in a full field in the Breeders’ Cup. That’s where the champions have been decided almost every year.

“We have said all along that the Breeders’ Cup is the race we should all be meeting in and we’ll up their figure by five times. It’s unfortunate that Mr. Jackson would have to require our horse to run to make a charitable contribution. When you offer to make a donation to charity, it shouldn’t come from anywhere but the heart. We’ve made significant donations to various charities.
“Coming home from the Preakness at 5 oclock in the morning, we saw helicopters overhead on the Long Island Expressway, and the next morning I read a story about a Nassau County police officer, Ken Baribault, who was rear-ended by a drunk driver while he was arresting another drunk driver. He suffered serious injuries and went into a coma. The story was on the page right next to Big Brown. While we were prospering, he and his family were suffering, and I felt it was our duty as Nassau County residents to come to their aid. The idea we had was donate a percentage of the purse money in the Belmont, and we had his family come to the race. Unfortunately that didn’t work out. We then went to an event where they were promoting officer Baribault and we made a donation of $50,000 to his son for his scholarship foundation. Then we found out two weeks later that the officer had come out of his coma and was sent to a rehab center in New Jersey only 15 minutes from Monmouth Park. So we arranged for his whole family to come to the Haskell and donated a piece of the purse from the race so someone could stay with him until he can get back on his feet.


Why the need to brag about donations? That just takes away from the whole purpose of it...IMO

Coach Pants 08-13-2008 11:03 AM

If two impotent guys had a cock-off this is what it would be like.

GPK 08-13-2008 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
If two impotent guys had a cock-off this is what it would be like.


That about sums it up. Not sure if the two of them could even fit in the same with the size of their egos.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-13-2008 11:15 AM

is it me or does jackson look like the "jokers" dad

cmorioles 08-13-2008 11:35 AM

IEAH take on this is easy. They want no parts of Curlin on dirt.

smuthg 08-13-2008 11:43 AM

Jess should go to $500k to get them to run v. Curlin in Japan, on the Dirt...

Quiet Chris 08-13-2008 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
IEAH take on this is easy. They want no parts of Curlin on dirt.

They shouldn't. It wouldn't be very competitive. Curlin would beat BB handily and Divine Park might even beat both of them.

BB's feet are shot. He will win his little made for BB turf race and then get destroyed by Henrythenavigator on the synthetic. Nothing to be ashamed of, but he will still never have broken a 110 beyer on the dirt or beat a decent horse on the dirt.

hockey2315 08-13-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Chris
They shouldn't. It wouldn't be very competitive. Curlin would beat BB handily and Divine Park might even beat both of them.

BB's feet are shot. He will win his little made for BB turf race and then get destroyed by Henrythenavigator on the synthetic. Nothing to be ashamed of, but he will still never have broken a 110 beyer on the dirt or beat a decent horse on the dirt.

Whaaaat?

philcski 08-13-2008 12:40 PM

IEAH already turned down the challenge, as per the DRF. Sporting.

SniperSB23 08-13-2008 12:45 PM

I'll donate $500 to charity if they go best 2 out of 3 in the Woodward, Classic, and Hollywood Turf Cup.

Coach Pants 08-13-2008 12:46 PM

I'll donate tree fiddy if they avoid each other like they're going to do anyway and then retire by the end of the year.

Please. Do it. STFU. Go away.

DogsUp 08-13-2008 12:53 PM

This "saga" is freaking hilarious. I hope it continues. I always need a good laugh. IMO, Curlin would pretty much hand BB his lunch if they raced on dirt. On a synthetic surface, Curlin still might beat BB but prob not as bas as he would on dirt.

Henrythenavigator is one awesome horse. I would for him to come over for the Classic.

CSC 08-13-2008 12:54 PM

I might be in the minority here, but I wasn't impressed with Curlin's last race. Perhaps it was the surface, but with the weight advantage he got from the competition and the way the race set up for him I certainly expected more from a horse that is widely thought of as the best in North America. I'd certainly take a shot against him in his next start.

SniperSB23 08-13-2008 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
I might be in the minority here, but I wasn't impressed with Curlin's last race. Perhaps it was the surface, but with the weight advantage he got from the competition and the way the race set up for him I certainly expected more from a horse that is widely thought of as the best in North America. I'd certainly take a shot against him in his next start.

Ya think?

CSC 08-13-2008 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Ya think?

I'm just saying that horses are not machines and it might be a good opportunity to try someone else at a good price if it does happen.

freddymo 08-13-2008 01:08 PM

Maybe NTRA should pay for the transportation costs of both horses? lol

SCUDSBROTHER 08-13-2008 01:13 PM

After the Haskell, Rick Dutrow said Big Brown was “way better” than Curlin? I don't follow these big horses like a lot of people do, but that comment takes the cake. Maybe on turf he is way better. If I was IAVARONE, then I'd be looking for a turf race as well. I would be looking to race on turf on Breeders Cup day, too.

cmorioles 08-13-2008 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
After the Haskell, Rick Dutrow said Big Brown was “way better” than Curlin? I don't follow these big horses like a lot of people do, but that comment takes the cake. Maybe on turf he is way better. If I was IAVARONE, then I'd be looking for a turf race as well. I would be looking to race on turf on Breeders Cup day, too.

He is. It is called the Classic.

CSC 08-13-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles
He is. It is called the Classic.

Ridiculous comments like that just fuel the need for these 2 meet, whether we like it or not. It has made horseracing alot more interesting if they do meet in the BC, certainly it would be more interesting than the BC at Monmouth last year.


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