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ontheoutside 07-21-2008 10:40 AM

made up my mind
 
well
after trying to get feed back from the forum[with nearly no success]ive decided to take my shot this year at saratoga by betting 20 dollars to win
40 to place on steves value pick each race at saratoga
if he doesnt bet on a particular day
i wont bet
i also will take into concideration [with importance]all of hockeys take on each race he gives out a selection
thats my plan
i hope it all goes well
ill keep tabs on the value pick and give a update for the forum to see
ok
good luck everyone up at saratoga
p s into my 6th week with double knee replacement
slow as a mule still but pain is slowly leaving

robfla 07-21-2008 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside
well
after trying to get feed back from the forum[with nearly no success]ive decided to take my shot this year at saratoga by betting 20 dollars to win
40 to place on steves value pick each race at saratoga
if he doesnt bet on a particular day
i wont bet
i also will take into concideration [with importance]all of hockeys take on each race he gives out a selection
thats my plan
i hope it all goes well
ill keep tabs on the value pick and give a update for the forum to see
ok
good luck everyone up at saratoga
p s into my 6th week with double knee replacement
slow as a mule still but pain is slowly leaving

While Steve does give out great picks ( especially at toga ), maybe you can search the forum on a better way to spend the $40.00 to place on each race. ( exacta / tris / 10cent super / pick 3 / etc. )

I personally think place is a sucker bet.

just my 2 cents, good luck none the less

ateamstupid 07-21-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ontheoutside
well
after trying to get feed back from the forum[with nearly no success]

There are lots of great 'cappers here. It's impossible to narrow them down to a select few. I'm sure most of us have differing opinions on who the best 'cappers are as well. Handicapping is an inexact science and involves a lot of luck, so to definitively say who DT's best handicappers are is about impossible.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, but have you considered that your recovery time might be usefully spent trying to learn how to pick winners for yourself? Listening to others' input is helpful, but from experience, I can tell you that handicapping for yourself and picking your own winner is way more satisfying than being 'put on' to a horse..

the_fat_man 07-21-2008 02:24 PM

betting someone else's picks is like getting sloppy 2nds or messy 3rds

then again, this is a new era with the GIRLIE MAN being the prototype

oh ****

:rolleyes:

sumitas 07-21-2008 02:46 PM

Don't forget the show bet.

kenny p 07-21-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
There are lots of great 'cappers here. It's impossible to narrow them down to a select few. I'm sure most of us have differing opinions on who the best 'cappers are as well. Handicapping is an inexact science and involves a lot of luck, so to definitively say who DT's best handicappers are is about impossible.

I'm not trying to be a smartass, but have you considered that your recovery time might be usefully spent trying to learn how to pick winners for yourself? Listening to others' input is helpful, but from experience, I can tell you that handicapping for yourself and picking your own winner is way more satisfying than being 'put on' to a horse..

Great post!

miraja2 07-21-2008 04:07 PM

To each his own I suppose, but isn't handicapping races yourself the fun part about this whole thing?

TheSpyder 07-21-2008 04:58 PM

I agree with what they are saying..if I was laid up for months I'd be capping and reading horse racing books like crazy.

Spyder

SentToStud 07-21-2008 05:17 PM

I thought you were going to write that you are keeping your baby.

Go ahead and bet Steve's plays if you just want some action and don't want to handicap. You could do much worse.

I'd drop the double up place wager though.

Kasept 07-22-2008 06:57 AM

Ontheoutside..

Sorry I have been unresponsive to your request for feedback... Sent you a Private Message with some thoughts.

Hope your operation(s) go well and you get up on the new knees quick!

Kindest regards,
Steve

cowgirlintexas 07-22-2008 07:12 AM

I know that alot of times I will look at Steve's picks when I am handicapping and make a notation of who they are. He seems to have an un-canny nitch for finding those needles in haystacks that I just don't see.
By all means handicap yourself and use your picks with his in perhaps a tri or pick 4.

Good Luck and let us know how things are progressing. Both with the picks and the knee :)

Clip-Clop 07-22-2008 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Ontheoutside..

Sorry I have been unresponsive to your request for feedback... Sent you a Private Message with some thoughts.

Hope your operation(s) go well and you get up on the new knees quick!

Kindest regards,
Steve

You don't sleep much do you? Love the show and the site keep up the good work. Thanks for having all this.

VOL JACK 07-22-2008 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miraja2
To each his own I suppose, but isn't handicapping races yourself the fun part about this whole thing?


It may sound stupid, but I would rather lose with my selections than cash with someone else pick.


Betting to place is like kissing your sister. Betting to show is like kissing your brother.

ontheoutside 07-24-2008 07:01 PM

steves best value picks
 
ok guys
day 2
going into day im ---123 after 1 day with steves best value at 20 win 40 place

todays plays
2nd #3 winner 11.60 6.10 228 for me
3rd #8 loser
4th #1 2nd 5.70 114 for me
5th scartched
6th #8 2nd 6.10 122 for me
7th #5 winner 6.90 4.20 153 for me
8th #9 loser
9th #1 2nd 3.40 68 for me
10th #2 winner 9.40 4.70 188 for me

so 8 races at 60 each =480wagered got back 873
total profit for day +393
was minus -123 going in
so after 2 days +270
ok guys ill let you know again tommorrow

thanks steve keep it up

Clip-Clop 07-24-2008 08:24 PM

All that criticism
 
Kissing your sister they said. Looks like fun after two days of scratches. I can only see this working. Enjoy!!

ontheoutside 07-24-2008 10:41 PM

yes they said i was a balless man
 
yeah
i got hit pretty good
but i really dont care
im taking a shot
ill keep u imformed

sumitas 07-24-2008 10:46 PM

Maybe this strategy will be like the stock market. Up one day down the next. If that's the case pass tomorrow. ;)

SCUDSBROTHER 07-25-2008 10:16 PM

Aren't you giving up $400-$500 a week in take out? Instead of doing that, just bet $60-$120 a day on a pick 4. That will cost you (in the range of) $100 week in take-out. Over a year, you would save 15k.

ontheoutside 07-25-2008 10:28 PM

steves value picks for friday
 
not too good today
here is what i did
1st #2 loser
2nd #8 loser
3rd #1 loser
4th #7 loser
5th #7 winner paid 620 & 330 for me 62 + 66 128 for me
6th #3 loser
7th scratched
8th #6 loser
9th #3 placed paid 550 for me 110 110 for me

so i bet 480 got back 238

___ 242 for day

was plus 270 going in
so im still ahead 28 dollars after 3 days

ok steve
give him hell saturday

take care guys
ps and as far as the dude telling me to bet pick 4 and save 15 k a year
my freind
i havent hit a pick 3 in 35 years let alone a pick 4
ill do it my way and have some fun
u do it your way and i hope you crush em

ontheoutside 07-26-2008 10:48 AM

race replays
 
what am i doing wrong guys?i go to nyra.com
hit video replays
that brings me to the sight racereplays.com
but it still has that blue page on it telling me that due to whatever no replays
am i missing something here?am i supposed to go somewhere else 1st?im only looking for the free repalys


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