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hi_im_god 07-20-2008 10:34 AM

r.i.p. l.a.times horse racing coverage
 
after years of cutbacks, the times most recent layoffs/buyouts included bill christine and larry stewart, the only reporters still covering racing.

they aren't even running result charts at del mar after having previously eliminated running the entries.

the only coverage is an occasional story by sports editor bill dwyer.

the writing's been on the wall for a long time but for someone like me that grew up reading jim murray in the times, this is still a bit jaw dropping.

Cannon Shell 07-20-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
after years of cutbacks, the times most recent layoffs/buyouts included bill christine and larry stewart, the only reporters still covering racing.

they aren't even running result charts at del mar after having previously eliminated running the entries.

the only coverage is an occasional story by sports editor bill dwyer.

the writing's been on the wall for a long time but for someone like me that grew up reading jim murray in the times, this is still a bit jaw dropping.

people still buy newspapers?

hi_im_god 07-20-2008 10:40 AM

lol.

old people like me still even subscribe. some day i'll have to figure out this newfangled internet thingy.

Coach Pants 07-20-2008 10:59 AM

Maybe Perez Hilton will cover the Del Mar meet now.

Bobby Fischer 07-20-2008 11:00 AM

RIP

2Hot4TV 07-20-2008 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
people still buy newspapers?

It makes good fish wrap. The L.A Times reduced racing coverage about 2 years ago. We are a fringe sport that doesn't rate coverage over skateboarding.

MaTH716 07-20-2008 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Maybe Perez Hilton will cover the Del Mar meet now.

Only if C-Nak started dating Paris Hilton.

SlewsMyHero 07-20-2008 02:14 PM

Roger Stein on the Roger Stein show and Bob Ike, Jon Lindo and Jay Privman on Thoroughbred LA show encouraged listeners to cancel their LA Times subscriptions on yesterday's show. The Times had zero coverage of opening day at Del Mar. Both shows talked about great racing coverage by the Lang Newspaper Group papers which are comprised of the following:
* Los Angeles Daily News
* Long Beach Press-Telegram
* Torrance Daily Breeze
* Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
* San Bernardino Sun
* Redlands Daily Facts
* San Gabriel Valley Tribune
* Pasadena Star-News
* Whittier Daily News

Los Angeles area locals can call 1-800-232-NEWS to subscribe. They feature 4 handicappers, full charts and daily coverage of the live So. California meets.

Coach Pants 07-20-2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlewsMyHero
Roger Stein on the Roger Stein show and Bob Ike, Jon Lindo and Jay Privman on Thoroughbred LA show encouraged listeners to cancel their LA Times subscriptions on yesterday's show. The Times had zero coverage of opening day at Del Mar. Both shows talked about great racing coverage by the Lang Newspaper Group papers which are comprised of the following:
* Los Angeles Daily News
* Long Beach Press-Telegram
* Torrance Daily Breeze
* Inland Valley Daily Bulletin
* San Bernardino Sun
* Redlands Daily Facts
* San Gabriel Valley Tribune
* Pasadena Star-News
* Whittier Daily News

Los Angeles area locals can call 1-800-232-NEWS to subscribe. They feature 4 handicappers, full charts and daily coverage of the live So. California meets.

Roger Stein asking the masses to do something could have the opposite effect. Srsly. You listen to that show? LOL!

hi_im_god 07-20-2008 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
It makes good fish wrap. The L.A Times reduced racing coverage about 2 years ago. We are a fringe sport that doesn't rate coverage over skateboarding.

people still wrap fish in newspapers?

Rupert Pupkin 07-20-2008 03:56 PM

If they want to save some money and fire a couple of writers, that is bad enough, but there is no excuse for not showing the entries or results.

I cancelled my suscription a few days ago and I have gotten that paper my entire life. I cancelled just out of priniciple. They are just so arrogant that they would have the nerve to not even show the entries or results. It's as if they don't even care what their readers want. They just think they can do whatever they want and the readers won't even notice. They told me that they have had a ton of complaints about it too. It's amazing that they wouldn't reinstate showing the results and entries immediately if they are getting complaints and cancellations.

ForestofWonders 07-20-2008 04:36 PM

The Los Angeles Daily News stepped up its coverage of racing as a result of the LA Times move. They did a nice article on the opening day of the Del Mar meet. Apparently, half of the people cancelling their subscriptions recently have cited the removal of covering horseracing as a reason for cancelling.

The Pasadena Star does a nice job covering Santa Anita, and I enjoy the writing in the North County Times in covering Del Mar.

SlewsMyHero 07-20-2008 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Roger Stein asking the masses to do something could have the opposite effect. Srsly. You listen to that show? LOL!

I never miss the Roger Stein show. He shoots from the hip and talks about subjects that most racing related shows don't approach.

westcoastinvader 07-20-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
If they want to save some money and fire a couple of writers, that is bad enough, but there is no excuse for not showing the entries or results.

I cancelled my suscription a few days ago and I have gotten that paper my entire life. I cancelled just out of priniciple. They are just so arrogant that they would have the nerve to not even show the entries or results. It's as if they don't even care what their readers want. They just think they can do whatever they want and the readers won't even notice. They told me that they have had a ton of complaints about it too. It's amazing that they wouldn't reinstate showing the results and entries immediately if they are getting complaints and cancellations.


The Los Angeles Times is owned by the same guy who own the Chicago Tribune...and for now the Chicago Cubs. Chicago real estate magnate Sam Zell bought the Tribune and its companies last year.

Newspapers are moaning about low sales and low ad sales, but all they know how to do is cut costs. I haven't seen one example of an attempt to increase quality or alter focus.

dylbert 07-20-2008 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
people still buy newspapers?

Yes, to wrap fish!

jpops757 07-21-2008 04:21 AM

The Dallas Morning News out did them when they cut back and fired Gary West the week .befor the BC at LS, The Dallas papers have been lucky to have Gary and Randy Moss both but the News buying ou the hearld and dumb decisions by management have left Dallas without a turf writer. I have experienced some good sportswriters here, Blackie Sherod wos the best and is now retired, Blackie was so good he finished as a feature on the editorial page and in his youger years would cover the political partys conventions and showed his excelance with his colomus. Gary West is known for his turf writing but I maintain he could be in the Blackie class. Just a very good writer that happens to cover the turf.

Danzig 07-21-2008 06:33 AM

i buy a paper, i like reading it. adequate racing coverage since we have oaklawn.
matter of fact, if i didn't have a paper, i wouldn't have seen that sierra sunset is expected back to the barn in a couple weeks....

Bobby Fischer 07-21-2008 08:46 AM

If the papers don't want to cover horseracing the owners may as well buy their own page, run their own ads, and have writers write about how great such and such horses are and how great the upcoming race is.

2 Dollar Bill 07-21-2008 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
people still buy newspapers?

You need something to lite firewood.. !


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