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eajinabi 07-13-2008 09:36 PM

Other tracks to go All-Weather?
 
Are there any other tracks that are considering going all-weather?
It will be interesting to see if any of the Triple Cown tracks decide to.

Bobby Fischer 07-13-2008 09:42 PM

pretty much all the really cheap tracks that don't have triple crown races should change over IMO. philly,del,laurel,charlestown,mountaineer,hawthorn e,thistle,penn national,finger lakes, etc...

hockey2315 07-13-2008 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
pretty much all the really cheap tracks that don't have triple crown races should change over IMO. philly,del,laurel,charlestown,mountaineer,hawthorn e,thistle,penn national,finger lakes, etc...

Umm. . . why?

NTamm1215 07-13-2008 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
Umm. . . why?

Come on, you know why, because all those "really cheap" tracks can certainly afford it? I mean couldn't you imagine Thistle making an announcement like: "hey, our purses are $90,000 a day, we think we can make it maybe another year without slots, our parent company's stock is on the verge of being de-listed and we're blacked out to ADWs." Sounds like a great idea.

By the way, in terms of being a "cheap" track, Philly Park has a better purse structure than any racetrack in the Mid-Atlantic except NYRA.

NT

Danzig 07-13-2008 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
pretty much all the really cheap tracks that don't have triple crown races should change over IMO. philly,del,laurel,charlestown,mountaineer,hawthorn e,thistle,penn national,finger lakes, etc...

i hope you're kidding. at the cost, and the struggle to maintain a track, to figure out all the quirks--i have to wonder if any track will make the switch now. certainly a struggling track can't afford it.

eajinabi 07-13-2008 11:13 PM

I think all TRAINING tracks should be required to change to poly track as more injuries occur during workouts.

westcoastinvader 07-13-2008 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i hope you're kidding. at the cost, and the struggle to maintain a track, to figure out all the quirks--i have to wonder if any track will make the switch now. certainly a struggling track can't afford it.

That's what loans are for.

Put it out over 10 years, and it's chump change.

hockey2315 07-14-2008 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
I think all TRAINING tracks should be required to change to poly track as more injuries occur during workouts.

I think more RESEARCH should be done on synthetic vs. dirt :eek:

2Hot4TV 07-14-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
That's what loans are for.

Put it out over 10 years, and it's chump change.

????????????????:zz:

Danzig 07-14-2008 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
I think all TRAINING tracks should be required to change to poly track as more injuries occur during workouts.

AWT doesn't lessen injuries, it is producing different types of injuries.

seems this is ground we've trod over in the past....

pricci asked the question, " If synthetic tracks can't significanty prevent injuries and are more difficult and expensive to maintain than originally projected, why do it?"

i'd say it's a good question.

i think most of the tracks who switched did so to save money-since the surfaces were supposed to cut way down on needed maintenance, as well as keeping fuller, bettable fields when turf gets rained off.

Bobby Fischer 07-14-2008 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hockey2315
Umm. . . why?

artificially enhanced race dynamics, larger fields make the cheaper races more playable

nothing worse than watching a typical race at philly park. Someone like scott lake vs a.dutrow with two 7/5 shots going out and running the other 3 horses off the track within the first half minute.

Arlington or Turfway are decent examples of cheap maintrack racing that is more playable with the fake stuff. I don't look to play it, but at least it's playable.

Give these cheaper tracks turf-like heavy synthetic and it's even better. But keep that minor league junk out of the major tracks.
Nothing worse than seeing a grade I race on synthetic. Sure the race has 12 entries and 5 moves, but I would rather see Aluminum bats in the Major Leagues.

sumitas 07-14-2008 02:26 PM

Ah fugeddabout it. Ya know I support them.


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