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TheSpyder 06-29-2008 02:21 PM

Dutrow running one off 2 days rest
 
Monmouth race 7: #2 Unrequited

Ran Friday at Belmont

Interesting.........

Spyder

MISTERGEE 06-29-2008 02:35 PM

if it runs, shades of the great Oscar Barrera

TheSpyder 06-29-2008 02:36 PM

Broke down about one furlong into the race! What's he say about not having horses break down?

This will be good to hear what he was thinking about running a horse twice in three days.

Spyder

Bigsmc 06-29-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Broke down about one furlong into the race! What's he say about not having horses break down?
This will be good to hear what he was thinking about running a horse twice in three days.

Spyder

Lovely.

pgardn 06-29-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Broke down about one furlong into the race! What's he say about not having horses break down?

This will be good to hear what he was thinking about running a horse twice in three days.

Spyder

Are you serious?
This is ample PETA fodder and rightfully so.

MaTH716 06-29-2008 02:46 PM

Not to mention that the horse also worked 3 times since the 13th of June. My guess is that he tried passing off that the horse was sound with all the works and 2nd race in 2 days and maybe someone would claim him.

TheSpyder 06-29-2008 02:47 PM

Yep...

Flying high in May and shot down in June.......

He's becoming an Amy Winehouse wannabe

Spyder

Rupert Pupkin 06-29-2008 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Broke down about one furlong into the race! What's he say about not having horses break down?

This will be good to hear what he was thinking about running a horse twice in three days.

Spyder

Did he actually break down or did he just pull up? I didn't see the race. The chart says that he was pulled up and vanned off. Did it look like he broke something?

TheSpyder 06-29-2008 04:41 PM

I could not tell from the vidoe but was right in front of the race and was pulled up very fast and looked to be in trouble as it happened.

Anyway to find out for sure what happened?

Spyder

eajinabi 06-29-2008 04:45 PM

He and Barry Abrams do that often

Rupert Pupkin 06-29-2008 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
I could not tell from the vidoe but was right in front of the race and was pulled up very fast and looked to be in trouble as it happened.

Anyway to find out for sure what happened?

Spyder

Yes, I will find out. It may take a day or two but I will post it in this thread when I find out.

Cannon Shell 06-29-2008 05:39 PM

Broke a back leg.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-29-2008 05:58 PM

Isn't Monmouth a layer of dirt over a slab of concrete?

Cannon Shell 06-29-2008 06:01 PM

Personally this bothers me a lot more than any of his other issues. If you run a horse back off of one days rest and it breaks down you should take 100% of the blame. Being reckless with the life of the horse is unforgivable. This is a disgrace.

SCUDSBROTHER 06-29-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Personally this bothers me a lot more than any of his other issues. If you run a horse back off of one days rest and it breaks down you should take 100% of the blame. Being reckless with the life of the horse is unforgivable. This is a disgrace.

Would seem the one thing you would most want to make sure doesn't happen. That's why I am surprised he ran back on a hard(fast) speed favoring surface like that.

Cannon Shell 06-29-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Would seem the one thing you would most want to make sure doesn't happen. That's why I am surprised he ran back on a hard(fast) speed favoring surface like that.

The surface is immaterial. Surfaces take a whole lot more blame than they should because they cant argue back. 95% of breakdowns has nothing to do with surface.

herkhorse 06-29-2008 06:09 PM

WTF, when are these guys going to be held responsible? All they ever seem to get is a slap on the wrist.:wf

MaTH716 06-29-2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Would seem the one thing you would most want to make sure doesn't happen. That's why I am surprised he ran back on a hard(fast) speed favoring surface like that.

Do you really think he cares? I personally think he knew that the horse had holes in him and tried to pass him on to someone else. No one bit and I am guessing the poor horse had to be put down. But I guess that there will be no mention of this between the Grade 1 and the posible pending suspention. But Contessa is the jerkoff. The whole thing just sucks.

Cannon Shell 06-29-2008 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
WTF, when are these guys going to be held responsible? All they ever seem to get is a slap on the wrist.:wf

Nothing will happen. Nothing happens because as the Bid says, Dutrow has the magic wand and the owners lust after that. The horses, fans, game, rules be damned. I usually try let people understand the other side of the coin, from a trainers point of view. A lot of times there is outrage over things that simply arent as big of a deal as they are made out to be. Sometimes things are misinterpreted. But this is wrong on so many levels. Letting horses run back on 1 days rest is a questionable practice by the tracks/stewards. But ultimately the trainer and owner is responsible for the horses well being. This situation is really hard to reason away. A guy hitting a horse in the face caused an unbelievably negative response. This is so much worse than that...

MaTH716 06-29-2008 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Nothing will happen. Nothing happens because as the Bid says, Dutrow has the magic wand and the owners lust after that. The horses, fans, game, rules be damned. I usually try let people understand the other side of the coin, from a trainers point of view. A lot of times there is outrage over things that simply arent as big of a deal as they are made out to be. Sometimes things are misinterpreted. But this is wrong on so many levels. Letting horses run back on 1 days rest is a questionable practice by the tracks/stewards. But ultimately the trainer and owner is responsible for the horses well being. This situation is really hard to reason away. A guy hitting a horse in the face caused an unbelievably negative response. This is so much worse than that...

Chuck, Is there a rule that the track/stewards have that they could have enfored not letting him run the horse? Or because it is Dutrow and Monmouth wants him to have a stable there, they pretty much let him do what he wants?


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