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Gander 04-21-2008 05:54 PM

Biggest Overlay on Derby Day?
 
Their price in relation to them winning their Derby...

Any guesses?

Big Brown (if he goes off at 4/1 or higher, which I doubt but so many seem to think is possible)

Bob Black Jack (at anything above 25/1, which is likely)

Pyro (if he goes off at 10/1 or higher, which after his performance on the junk is possible)

Thunder Gulch 04-21-2008 08:13 PM

If you look at the current future odds, Smooth Air at 45-1 is nice. I'd take Eight Belles at 25-1, but I'm thinking she'd be less than that if she actually starts.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:15 PM

eight belles may be less than that, but i would be VERY surprised to see her less than double digits.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:15 PM

Visionaire

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
eight belles may be less than that, but i would be VERY surprised to see her less than double digits.

Let's hope her connections come to thier senses and go in the Oaks! ;)

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:17 PM

i'd run her on saturday. no guts no glory.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
Their price in relation to them winning their Derby...

Any guesses?

Big Brown (if he goes off at 4/1 or higher, which I doubt but so many seem to think is possible)

Bob Black Jack (at anything above 25/1, which is likely)

Pyro (if he goes off at 10/1 or higher, which after his performance on the junk is possible)

Big Brown will be 5-2 or less, doubt Bob Black Jack will be that much & Pyro looks about 8-1 and got the best shot of the three you listed.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i'd run her on saturday. no guts no glory.

But, I got her @ 22-1 in the 1st Oaks future pool :o nice to have extra dough the next day! ;)

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Big Brown will be 5-2 or less, doubt Bob Black Jack will be that much & Pyro looks about 8-1 and got the best shot of the three you listed.

less?! i think 5-2 is too low.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
But, I got her @ 22-1 in the 1st Oaks future pool :o nice to have extra dough the next day! ;)

lol
well, good luck anyway. but i'd like to see her on saturday. she's got a ready made excuse if she loses, but if she wins....
immortality. hell, we might even have a thread on here after asking if she is 'better' than winning colors!:cool:

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
less?! i think 5-2 is too low.

I'd be shocked if he was more than 7-2, Colonel John should be 2nd choice (5-1 to 7-1) & Pyro (6-1 to 9-1)

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
lol
well, good luck anyway. but i'd like to see her on saturday. she's got a ready made excuse if she loses, but if she wins....
immortality. hell, we might even have a thread on here after asking if she is 'better' than winning colors!:cool:

She's good.....for 2008, but Winning Colors.....:rolleyes:

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
She's good.....for 2008, but Winning Colors.....:rolleyes:

yeah, i know.. i was remembering the rags/winning colors thread when i wrote that. VERY much tongue in cheek.

Thunder Gulch 04-21-2008 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
lol
well, good luck anyway. but i'd like to see her on saturday. she's got a ready made excuse if she loses, but if she wins....
immortality. hell, we might even have a thread on here after asking if she is 'better' than winning colors!:cool:

Without much hesitation, Rags to Riches Belmont, Winning Colors 88, Genuine Risk 80, Regret 1915?...go for immortality in a year like this. I still remember thinking Silverbulletday would have roasted that field in 1999 but Baffert sent the wrong filly. Who knows if she would have won, but she sure looked like a champ with the ease in which she took the Oaks. Talk about a push button filly.

Hickory Hill Hoff 04-21-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, i know.. i was remembering the rags/winning colors thread when i wrote that. VERY much tongue in cheek.

:D

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:37 PM

yeah, 1915. sticks in my head, along with so much other useless trivia.
what the hell, send eight belles and pure clan to the derby.

tiggerv 04-21-2008 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, 1915. sticks in my head, along with so much other useless trivia.
what the hell, send eight belles and pure clan to the derby.

Game 7!!! :)

Oh overlay...BBJ maybe

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv
Game 7!!! :)

Oh overlay...BBJ maybe

yeah, just changed the sig! awesome, but godd--n Versus. showing the effing boston game. BOSTON. who cares?!?! had to listen on the radio via the internet. man, the one reason i hate living where i live.

tiggerv 04-21-2008 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
yeah, just changed the sig! awesome, but godd--n Versus. showing the effing boston game. BOSTON. who cares?!?! had to listen on the radio via the internet. man, the one reason i hate living where i live.

Can't wait. I will be there tomorrow night.

Danzig 04-21-2008 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Can't wait. I will be there tomorrow night.


lucky!!!! enjoy the game, hope to the hockey gods we move on to round two!


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