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Kasept 04-03-2008 05:13 PM

4/5-6 (OP): Oaklawn H. (Gr. II); Apple Blsm (Gr. I); Fantasy (Gr. II)
 
Saturday 8th (4:57) -- Apple Blossom Handicap (Gr. I)

Fillies & Mares 4 & Up, 1 1/16 Miles, Purse: $500,000

1. Ginger Punch (FL), 122, Ramon A. Dominguez
2. Brownie Points (KY), 114, Luis S. Quinonez
3. Lemon Drop Mom (KY), 112, Clinton L. Potts
4. Kettleoneup (KY), 116, Calvin H. Borel
5. Clever Strike (KY), 110, Shaun Bridgmohan
6. Zenyatta (KY), 116, Mike E. Smith



Saturday 10th (6:02) -- Oaklawn H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Buzzards Bay Valdivia J Jr 116 L
2 Tiago Smith M E 117 L
3 Fairbanks Dominguez R A 115 L
4 Heatseeker (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L
5 Circular Quay Velazquez J R 117 L
6 Reporting for Duty Bridgmohan S X 113 L
7 Silver Lord Borel C H 113 L



Sunday 10th (5:33) Fantasy S. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 French Kiss Johnson J M 117 L
2 Pure Clan Leparoux J R 121 L
3 Eight Belles Dominguez R A 121 L
4 Alina Quinonez L S 121 L

jcs11204 04-03-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
10th (6:02) Oaklawn H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Buzzards Bay Valdivia J Jr 116 L
2 Tiago Smith M E 117 L
3 Fairbanks Dominguez R A 115 L
4 Heatseeker (IRE) Bejarano R 119 L
5 Circular Quay Velazquez J R 117 L
6 Reporting for Duty Bridgmohan S X 113 L
7 Silver Lord Borel C H 113 L


Tiago Finally ?

Bobby Fischer 04-03-2008 10:36 PM

Who the hell is advising William Deburgh ? :mad:

very unwise

Travis Stone 04-03-2008 11:07 PM

Silver Lord probably likes the outside draw this time around.

Oaklawnfan 04-03-2008 11:19 PM

Call me crazy, which I know most of you cynical wonderful people will, but my pick for the Arkansas Derby last year would have been Circular Quay. This race sets up perfect for him. Of course that's kind of stupid considering that Curlin won the race, but I think that it still applies. Johnny V with a horse that really fits to this scenario. I'm just sayin'. Give me some love. Why else would he have shipped here?:rolleyes:

RolloTomasi 04-03-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
Who the hell is advising William Deburgh ? :mad:

very unwise

Where else is that horse going to run?

letswastemoney 04-04-2008 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Where else is that horse going to run?

maybe on the turf somewhere...or wait for something at Hollywood or Keeneland

letswastemoney 04-04-2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
Tiago Finally ?

This is Tiago's first dirt race on a fast track in a long, long time (the last time he raced on a fast dirt track was Belmont Stakes). I think he has a good chance here.

Bobby Fischer 04-04-2008 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Where else is that horse going to run?

Here you have a fairly classy turf to synth convert. Just won the BIG CAP. You figure in that situation it's time to kiss the earth. Your foreign turf import got right and you managed to luck into a beautiful surface situation with the synthetic sham. However when you have this years Breeders Cup at Santa Anita(and not even dare looking to NEXT YEARS AS WELL!) you would have to wonder how your stars could have aligned. The rest of this season is a prep for the BC with a few big stops. You may even go turf or lay off to avoid the heavy Del Mar surface.

So what do you do? Ship him to Oaklawn and run him 1st on the dirt? Right... :o



also worth noting that he is the morning line favorite:eek: and looks to be a nice bet against.

SniperSB23 04-04-2008 09:24 AM

What is the reasoning for Howard not running Grasshopper here? Hardly a scary field. I guess the Pimlico Special and Stephen Foster are likely to be no better though.

KY_Sasquash 04-04-2008 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
This is Tiago's first dirt race on a fast track in a long, long time (the last time he raced on a fast dirt track was Belmont Stakes). I think he has a good chance here.


I do, too. Tiago over Circular Quay

Kasept 04-04-2008 10:59 AM

Apple Blossom drawn...
 
Sunday 8th (4:57) -- Apple Blossom Handicap (Gr. I)

Fillies & Mares 4 & Up, 1 1/16 Miles, Purse: $500,000

1. Ginger Punch (FL), 122, Ramon A. Dominguez
2. Brownie Points (KY), 114, Luis S. Quinonez
3. Lemon Drop Mom (KY), 112, Clinton L. Potts
4. Kettleoneup (KY), 116, Calvin H. Borel
5. Clever Strike (KY), 110, Shaun Bridgmohan
6. Zenyatta (KY), 116, Mike E. Smith

tiggerv 04-04-2008 12:00 PM

I hope Zenyatta is as good as I think she is.

Indian Charlie 04-04-2008 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
What is the reasoning for Howard not running Grasshopper here? Hardly a scary field. I guess the Pimlico Special and Stephen Foster are likely to be no better though.

agreed.

however, he's aiming for some lame duck g3 at aqu at the end of the month. i think it's named the westchester? its during the week, not on a weekend.

ArlJim78 04-04-2008 02:15 PM

how does Ginger Punch not simply run these off their feet?

SniperSB23 04-04-2008 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
how does Ginger Punch not simply run these off their feet?

You talking about the Apple Blossom field or the Oaklawn Handicap field cause I think that could apply to either.

ArlJim78 04-04-2008 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You talking about the Apple Blossom field or the Oaklawn Handicap field cause I think that could apply to either.

:D well i wouldn't go quite that far.

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You talking about the Apple Blossom field or the Oaklawn Handicap field cause I think that could apply to either.

you guys are crazy... the oaklawn group is not that bad
as for ginger, she will have her hands full with Zenyatta

letswastemoney 04-04-2008 11:34 PM

it's going to be a slow pace. i say ginger punch will win.

jcs11204 04-04-2008 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by letswastemoney
it's going to be a slow pace. i say ginger punch will win.

she could, but why easily ?
zenyatta could be special


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