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Kasept 03-31-2008 06:14 PM

Weekend BSF's
 
Floriday Derby-BIG BROWN 106 (Smooth Air 98; Tomcito 85)
Next Move-WOW ME FREE 98
Shirley Jones-SUGAR SWIRL 94
Bonnie Miss-SHES ALL ELTISH 90
Palm Beach-SPORTING ART 89

hockey2315 03-31-2008 06:46 PM

109 for Electrify

Kasept 04-02-2008 09:22 AM

*Forever Whirl (GP): Electrify (E. Plesa Jr./J. Lezcano) - 109

*Florida Derby (GP): Big Brown (R. Dutrow Jr./K. Desormeaux) - 106
*Carousel (OP): Graeme Six (T. Amoss/E. Razo Jr.) - 102

*Orchid (GP): Hostess (H. Bond/J. Velazquez) - 99
*Next Move (Aqu): Wow Me Free (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 98
*Tokyo City (SA): Niagara Causeway (L. Powell/J. Court) - 97
*Fort Bend County (Hou): Gold Coyote (W. Calhoun/B. Walker Jr.) - 94
*Shirley Jones (GP): Sugar Swirl (B. Lynch/J. Castellano) - 94
*Hillsborough (BM): Unspoken Word (J. Hollendorfer/R. Baze) - 94
*American Beauty (SA): Diamond Diva - GB (J. Cassidy/M. Smith) - 92
*Harrison E. Johnson Memorial (Lrl): Arcata (H. Motion/J. Rose) - 90
*Budweiser-Tondi (Fon): Bevys Best (L. Staroscik/Y. Yaranga) - 90
*Bonnie Miss (GP): Shes All Eltish (M. Wolfson/E. Castro) - 90

*San Miguel (SA): Salute the Sarge (E. Guillot/M. Baze) - 89
*Palm Beach (GP): Sporting Art (C. Clement/J. Castellano) - 89
*Cocodrie (DeD): Bandido (K. Bourgeois/G. Melancon) - 88
*Gardenia (DeD): Coach Mike (T. Richey/D. Saenz) - 87
*Langhorne (Pha): Jet Away Jane (T. Miller/A. Rodriguez) - 86
*Santa Paula (SA): Lethal Heat (B. Abrams/G. Olguin) - 86
*Fairway Fun (TP): Princess Composer (R. McGee/J. Camejo) - 86
*Mt. Cristo Rey (Sun): Frankenbean (E. Burelsmith Jr./M. Perez) - 83
*Manor Downs Distance Cup (Man): Aggies Rule (C. Bronstad/P. Boxie) - 80
*Tempe (TuP): El Mirage (K. Lewis/V. Guerra) - 80

cmorioles 04-02-2008 09:44 AM

That 90 for She's All Eltish is too low, IMO.

Kasept 04-02-2008 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
That 90 for She's All Eltish is too low, IMO.

CJ..

Tell us more~!

May have missed it elsewhere, but would love to hear your riff a little on the pace scenarios from the three late 9f races Saturday and their potential after effects...

cmorioles 04-02-2008 10:12 AM

I did talk about it after saying that the track definitely sped up big time. I think it was the "How good is BB thread".

Given that this was the first route of the day, and the other two were run on a clearly much faster surface, the only real way to make a figure for the race is to look at the horses in the race.

You have lightly raced 3yo fillies that have shown a decent amount of talent. The pace was moderate, not slow so that it would have had a big influence on the final time. On the scale I use, the pace time was actually rated about a length higher than the final time. So, this wasn't some crawl fest.

Given that, I looked at the winner blowing away the field and the horses behind her. Since I know they weren't cooked by a fast pace, I just don't see a 90 being feasible. It means not only did the winner do nothing special (and probably regress), every other horse in the field ran well below previously displayed ability for no apparent reason. It just doesn't make sense. I'm giving the race about a 98 and won't be surprised if that winds up being a tad low.

Mike 04-02-2008 03:43 PM

Big Brown raises the bar on the prerequisite Beyer of a 105 in a route, prior to heading into the Derby


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