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IrishofNDMan 03-30-2008 11:07 PM

Is this a normal thing?
 
I noticed when looking up Blackberry Road that he worked today. It also said that David Carrol was aboard, is it a normal thing for the trainer to breeze his horses?

Scav 03-30-2008 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
I noticed when looking up Blackberry Road that he worked today. It also said that David Carrol was aboard, is it a normal thing for the trainer to breeze his horses?

Some do some don't. Larry Jones, that big SOB breezes his horses I think....

IrishofNDMan 03-30-2008 11:09 PM

Is it bad to have a trainer who is about 150-180 up on the horse?

Scav 03-30-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Is it bad to have a trainer who is about 150-180 up on the horse?

When I was at Saratoga watching the works, I saw a dude that was like 240 on a horse.

hi_im_god 03-30-2008 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan
Is it bad to have a trainer who is about 150-180 up on the horse?

the trainer could hurt himself.

otherwise it's like you carrying a 15 lb backpack instead of 10 lbs.

go to a ranch and check out the fat chicks that love horses. i've seen what i think was close to 3 bills slopping around on the back of some poor nag.

Oaklawnfan 03-31-2008 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Some do some don't. Larry Jones, that big SOB breezes his horses I think....

I've seen it. It's not a pretty sight, but seems to work for their barn. Denis of Cork had a great breeze today and was third best at Churchill. Look out!:eek:

Bigsmc 03-31-2008 04:21 AM

Irish,

There is a five page thread about Denis of Cork. Take the time to read it and you'll know why David Carroll breezed the horse.

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Anyone who thinks that Carroll wouldn't know how to bring a horse into the Triple Crown the right way is unenlightened. He was there every step of the way galloping Easy Goer.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21137

Pedigree Ann 03-31-2008 05:29 AM

I'm doing this from memory, so if I get the details wrong, kindly forgive me.

Del Carroll, who must have been David's father or grandfather, had taken out a particular handful of a horse named Sportin' Life for exercise at Keeneland. Some time later, horse was found running loose and Carroll found fatally injured on the track. Details never discovered, no witnesses. [Oddly enough, no conspiracy theories floated about. It was a simpler time.] So it is something of a Carroll tradition to ride the horses they train.

Sportin' Life went on to sire Bet Twice, who tried to trip up Alysheba in the Derby stretch, then went on to win the Belmont.

IrishofNDMan 03-31-2008 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'd be more concerned with Blackberry Road lacking a good race a lot more than having his trainer work the horse. Where exactly is his good race?

Coming in the Arkansas.

letswastemoney 03-31-2008 02:54 PM

Blackberry Road reminds me of Dollar Bill :)

Kasept 03-31-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
I'm doing this from memory, so if I get the details wrong, kindly forgive me.

Del Carroll, who must have been David's father or grandfather, had taken out a particular handful of a horse named Sportin' Life for exercise at Keeneland. Some time later, horse was found running loose and Carroll found fatally injured on the track. Details never discovered, no witnesses. [Oddly enough, no conspiracy theories floated about. It was a simpler time.] So it is something of a Carroll tradition to ride the horses they train.

Sportin' Life went on to sire Bet Twice, who tried to trip up Alysheba in the Derby stretch, then went on to win the Belmont.

You are indeed incorrect... David Carroll is Irish.

Delmer 'Red' Carroll was a legendary Maryland horsemen and one of America's greatest polo players ever. His son is Del Carroll II of NY training reknown. Red Carroll was famous for working with rogue horses and Sportin Life was as evil and dangerous a horse as has ever been on a racetrack.

Coach Pants 03-31-2008 02:56 PM

Who are you to question David Carroll?!?! He galloped Easy Goer fer christsakes!!

pgiaco 03-31-2008 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Blackberry Road reminds me of Dollar Bill :)

Dollar Bill without talent.:eek:

Kasept 03-31-2008 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Who are you to question David Carroll?!?! He galloped Easy Goer fer christsakes!!

Damn right.. Tell 'em Pantso!


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