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Kasept 03-15-2008 07:12 AM

3/16 (GP): Mac Diarmida H. (GII)
 
8th (4:42) Mac Diarmida H. (G2)

1 3/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 1 Silver Whistle Desormeaux K J Mott William I 116 L 4-1
2 2 Croton Road Nunez E O Spatz Ronald B 115 L 12-1
3 3 True Cause Velazquez J R bin Suroor Saeed 116 L 5-1
4 4 Drilling for Oil Cruz M R McPeek Kenneth G 115 L 6-1
5 5 Ascertain (IRE) Douglas R R O'Callaghan Niall M 116 L 12-1
6 6 Presious Passion Lezcano J Hartmann Mary 117 L 8-1
7 7 Big Prairie Prado E S Arnold George R II 116 L 15-1
8 8 French Vintage Alvarado J Pierce Joseph H Jr 115 L 20-1
9 9 Stream of Gold (IRE) Castro E McLaughlin Kiaran P 117 L 3-1
10 10 Pleasant Strike Castellano J J Pletcher Todd A 116 L 12-1
11 11 Cougar Bay (IRE) Coa E M Tagg Barclay 116 L 15-1
12 12 Pellegrino (BRZ) Velasquez C Attfield Roger L 116 L 20-1
13 AE Dynantonia Castellano J J Weaver George 115 L 20-1
14 AE Barastraight (GB) Bravo J Ribaudo Robert J 115 L 12-1

IrishofNDMan 03-15-2008 07:22 AM

at first glance I like Drilling for Oil.

jcs11204 03-16-2008 06:41 AM

weird, in my opinion its wide open but it seems chalky to me... im going 4 deep in the pick 3's and 4's with the same 4 being....1,3,9,11... i know the 11 is 15-1 but i think he will be bet.

Kasept 03-16-2008 07:24 AM

Why would this appear chalky? It's some terrific betting race with only a few crossouts and any of the potential 10-1 types are capable of winning or being involved in the decision... In fact, among ML choices Stream of Gold, Silver Whistle and True Cause, none look particularly overwhelming.

Stream of Gold feels like a horse that has done more in the U.S. than he has, and I'm personally getting tired of expecting the breakthrough performance. That said, he has to be used here.

O'Callahan's Ascertain tailed off badly after a strong year at age 6, and has clearly been working at a private facility for this return. He fired fresh at Remington in October, is 12-1 with potential to get lost on the board and will be forwardly placed in what should be a moderately paced affair. If close to his form in the Elkhorn (12f, KEE, Gr. III) last spring, he looks like the right value player.

1. #9 Stream of Gold 3-1
2. #5 Ascertain 12-1
3. #7 Big Prairie 15-1
4. #1 Silver Whistle 4-1

Coach Pants 03-16-2008 10:08 AM

Silver Whistle by 5+ lengths. Stronach Magic.

Coach Pants 03-16-2008 10:10 AM

We'll see. I thought his horse yesterday was garbage and he won by open lengths. Something about his horses at Gulfstream....

Payson Dave 03-16-2008 10:50 AM

Be forewarned... in the 7th at GP today at anything better than 2/1 I'm betting Matz's Political Nonsense.

CSC 03-16-2008 10:51 AM

Big Prarie is scratched
#14 draws in

No speed to speak of in this race, I agree with the above this is a good betting race as the likely favorites in here are not overwhelming. My only worry is my horse needs some pace in here.

For that I like Big Cougar , ran a nice race in the GP Hdcp from 10 post though he did get a good trip. In a field of of no standouts and unreliable favorites I'll give him a tap today.

hurricanefrank 03-16-2008 10:53 AM

Ascertain
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Why would this appear chalky? It's some terrific betting race with only a few crossouts and any of the potential 10-1 types are capable of winning or being involved in the decision... In fact, among ML choices Stream of Gold, Silver Whistle and True Cause, none look particularly overwhelming.

Stream of Gold feels like a horse that has done more in the U.S. than he has, and I'm personally getting tired of expecting the breakthrough performance. That said, he has to be used here.

O'Callahan's Ascertain tailed off badly after a strong year at age 6, and has clearly been working at a private facility for this return. He fired fresh at Remington in October, is 12-1 with potential to get lost on the board and will be forwardly placed in what should be a moderately paced affair. If close to his form in the Elkhorn (12f, KEE, Gr. III) last spring, he looks like the right value player.

1. #9 Stream of Gold 3-1
2. #5 Ascertain 12-1
3. #7 Big Prairie 15-1
4. #1 Silver Whistle 4-1

I agree with your analysis Steve. Assuming O'Callaghan has him ready to fire off the bench I think Ascertain may be the one to gun down mid-stretch.

GPK 03-16-2008 10:56 AM

Give me Presious Passion.

Back to a longer, more preferred disance and Lezcano jumps aboard.

jms62 03-16-2008 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
We'll see. I thought his horse yesterday was garbage and he won by open lengths. Something about his horses at Gulfstream....

Either they get the Energy drink or are in a hurry to see the hotties at the beach bar. On a serious note I think the Late P4 at GP pays Box cars today. Some wide open affairs.

Rileyoriley 03-16-2008 01:52 PM

Pleasant Strike.

pb72vett 03-16-2008 02:20 PM

Peter B LOWELL MA.
 
Iam Headed Out Like 6-9-4-11 Also Will Look At Sunlands Big Race Today,hey Steve Will Call You On Blackberry And Golden Yank Move To Chicago Along With Gus Looks?

Mike 03-16-2008 02:33 PM

boxing West Of Gibralter with Paris here;
same with Stream of Gold and Cougar Bay in the feature

declansharbor 03-16-2008 03:30 PM

5,6,9,10 tri box for a buck with a 5,6,9 exacta box for 4$

Danzig 03-16-2008 04:09 PM

silver whistle. am i a chalk eating weasel now?

GPK 03-16-2008 04:58 PM

Not sure how anyone other than Stream of Gold took money in that race.

Hello people...he did finish 2nd behind EC last year:D :D


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